Steven Crowder responds to Daily Wire: It was never about the money
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Seems like Crowder’s doing all this to get more interest in starting his own thing. DW’s offer is pretty standard. The entire brand was built by playing within the YouTube rules, much like Tim Pool did, and Crowder’s been banned multiple times for openly skirting them.
DW wouldn’t make any money if they gave him another offer so they gave him that one. The main issue is that Crowder’s better off going it alone, which he has to know. DW and Tim Pool and everyone would immediately give him shout outs for support. This all has to be planned. I refuse to believe this is a real ‘stand’ he’s taking, which I say as someone that’s on Mug Club and will follow Crowder wherever. I’d rather see an uncensored Crowder, which DW can’t provide. Go full Alex Jones on it.
https://twitter.com/TheQuartering/status/1616174640489021440
Even if it doesn't work like that, the whole point of having a publisher is to counter the threat of being shut down by big media. Threatening Crowder at all for daring to go against the grain shows where their priorities truly lie.
And the whole point of having a content creator employed at your publishing company, is for him to generate revenue to make your multimillion dollar investment in him worth the investment.
Why do people keep believing that Crowder is so edgy and bucks the "system?" He's STILL on YouTube and Twitter, while hundreds of other content creators were permanently banned years ago. What has he ever said that someone on the Daily Wire hasn't also said? What topic is he so edgy about?
Crowder's just like a Televangelist that says it's not about the money, it's about spreading the gospel, as he simultaneously passes the collection plate around.
Crowder has already been demonetized by YouTube in the past though.
That’s not how those work. You don’t add them up, they’re different things. The ad drop is the live read ads. Content strikes and bans are also different.
You don't add the percentages. They all come from different sources of revenue.
That open skirting really is “this wasn’t the rule but crowder upset people again so we are making a new rule and punishing him retroactively.”
They definitely did him dirty, like banning him for citing the CDC, but the whole point of his show is pushing that envelope in general.
His point though is that envelope is moved constantly and arbitrarily to deplatform conservatives. And penalizing talent for telling the truth is not something the right should be doing. YouTube ad revenue is nothing compared to what they make in ad reads and DW+ subs and Crowder knows this and he knows they know this and he knows they know they know this. But it’s still their boiler plate entry terms.
Every time crowder got a strike or a suspension mug club subscriptions sky rocketed. And he was already not making anything off ad revenue and under their offer they’d punish him for it and get the entirety of mug club sales. They know it’s a bad deal for the talent.
YouTube ad revenue wouldn’t even apply to Crowder because he’s been demonetized on YouTube.
Crowder’s correct that the social media channel rules are all BS but incorrect in thinking DW can really do anything about that. YouTube is their primary viewership platform which funnels people into DW memberships. It also helps with their live ad reads because it’s a larger audience.
It isn’t a bad deal for talent so much as there’s not as much reason for someone like Crowder to be part of a network like DW. There really wouldn’t be a point in DW to sign Crowder if they didn’t profit enough on it. It also puts the rest of their network at risk.
Crowder’s not Alex Jones but in terms of strikes and bans and what not and flak, he’s a lot closer to that than Shapiro. He’s a risky guy, and that comes with a price. I think him and Jeremy knew they couldn’t strike a deal that’d work so they’re mutually working to drum up a news cycle to talk about all this that will benefit both of them. The rapid rate it’s happening and all that all speak to that.
DW offer was shit. Do you like having your head pissed on and it called rain as well
It was a starting point for negotiation, and honestly isn’t really that out of the ordinary. It’s very clear Crowder’s trying to drum up trouble to promote his launch of his own service. He even recorded the call with DW and registered the domain name for ConPro already. DW may very well be in on it.
Whether or not you like the offer, Crowder’s knowing trying to stir up attention for his own launch of his own service.
You do not start a negotiation by pissing in someone's mouth. A conservative company should be bankrupted if it starts out demanding conservatives bow to big tech censorship or be punished
Which is just retarded as Crowder himself demands his people censor themselves enough to remain on YouTube. Gerald Jr. said exactly that on Tim Pool's show.
They approached him with the standard terms they give everybody, only with $50 million operating budget for 4 years.
So...they're friends but they still want him to negotiate like a business but not take other business precautions. But they also want to inflict heavy penalties on him as well
Why not just ask him to bend over then 'friend'
They also offer this shit to everyone. It's an awful deal ffs
That's jew media buddies for ya!
Yeah, because you just arbitrarily pay your friends more money if they come work for you. What friends don't do however, is try to destroy their friend's company because they couldn't come to a contractual understanding. Not offering Crowder what Crowder thought he should be paid isn't trying to sabotage Crowder.
Not take other business precautions?
Them being friends doesn’t mean he just hands Crowder a 50 million dollar budget for 4 years. I really like Crowder. More than DW. Crowder’s great, but he’s overtly handling this to stir up drama, which I can do without.
Nobody is asking for 50 million with no strings. It just depends if you think the penalties are worth it considering they’re mostly not based on his shows but if he gets banned or suspended etc
DW operates within the YouTube/Social Media rules that are completely stacked against them. Crowder mostly tries not to and pushes hard enough that they at times change rules just to get him. That makes him a bad investment for them, unless there are provisions in place to protect them.
The bigger issue is that Crowder knows he can’t get the deal he wants ANYWHERE and he needs to go it alone so he can Alex Jones it, and is using this with Jeremy’s consent most likely to drum up publicity for that to have a big launch. Crowder’s an actual actor. I love him but if people that are his fans don’t see this then they don’t fully understand Crowder.
Oh so it's "standard" for certain groups to offer incredibly predatory contracts designed to proverbially pull out someone's tongue and enslave them?
(((Certain groups)))
Predatory OFFER. There's an oxymoron if there ever was one. This is that same gaslighting horseshit that Black people complained about when they defaulted on loans from banks and lost their houses.
If banks don't loan to Black people because they're more likely to default, it's Redlining. If they make loans to Black people and they default, Predatory Lending.
I guess you forgot about the skit Crowder did on Colin Kaepernick calling himself a wage slave at the hands of slave master NFL. It's still up on Crowder Bits, it's called "Colin Kaepernick Re-Re-Boot of Roots."
Oh come off it. It’s standard to make someone an offer that’d take into account the risks involved that’d make it work for you. Then they counter and you go from there. Crowder did make a counter offer, so he wasn’t completely against the terms.
Why would Jeremy jump in to suck Crowder’s dick? DW made Tim Pool a similar offer and it wouldn’t work for him so he turned them down and they just did work together periodically. I’m sure Jeremy’s in on this at this point too and they’re just getting themselves into the news cycle and both of their subscribers will go up.