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I lmao whenever I read comments under Sino-Viet war vids where they call each other silly slurs in broken English (like Chinks calling them gooks), but really didn't expect a hilarious racism even between southerners and northerners. Anyway, do you have a favourite Azn country? (Jpn doesn't count) (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
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– SoctaticMethod1 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I'll give Vietnam credit, they shut down the Khmer Rouge when the west and China was backing them.

Favourite Asian country but can't pick Japan is the easiest answer ever, Taiwan, true China!

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– Gizortnik 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

That's actually what the Chinese Incursion was about.

The situation was so bad, that Communist Party, Khmer Rouge, loyalists crawled out of the killing fields, fled to Vietnam, and begged for the NVA to intervene because it really did look like the Khmer Rouge were going to kill literally everyone in Cambodia. China was fully aware of this for years and did less than nothing to stem the violence. When the Khmer Rouge began mass slaughtering the Chinese in Cambodia, China didn't even consider to lift a fucking finger.

From Thomas Sowell's "Migrations and Cultures" page 212-213

As French Indochina disappeared, Vietnam Cambodia, and Laos when their separate ways as independent states. All discriminated against the Chinese with laws forbidding them to engage in many occupations. When the Communists established control in these states during the 1970', the Chinese were doubly hated as "capitalists" and doubly targeted for oppression. Of the one million refugees who fled Vietnam between 1975 and 1979, an estimated 70 percent were Chinese. Many were "boat people" who often put themselves and their families on flimsy and leaking river craft and took the desperate gamble of setting sail on the high seas, where hundreds of thousands drowned. Many "boat people" were also victimized on the high seas by crews of other vessels who boarded their defenseless boats to rob, rape, and murder the hated Chinese.

After 1979, the exodus declined but did not stop. With the Communist takeover of Cambodia, rename Kampuchea, a new wave of mass barbarities fostered a new wave of refugees, sometimes called "land people" who tried to escape across the land to Thailand. Many were killed on the way. Those who remained were caught in the greatest mass murders of the postwar era by Communist leader Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge troops. Half of Kampuchea's Chinese population of 400,000 were killed during the 1975-1979 period. They were only part of the millions slaughtered in the infamous "killing fields" of Kampuchea. China, which protested vehemently about Indonesia's mistreatment of it's Chinese minority, made no such protests over what was happening in Kampuchea. Pol Pot was an ally.

The Vietnamese decided that the killing needed to stop because it was beyond the pale even for them, and it was clear that such instability could spread to the utterly war-ravaged Laos and Vietnam. Also, it gave them a good excuse to project power on the former Indochina region, so they invaded and overthrew the Khmer Rouge. This outraged China, (especially since Mao had taken massive steps to fund, and supply the Viet Minh's (Vietnamese Communist Party) war against America and South Vietnam) and it prompted an invasion by China, who commenced with shelling the city of Hanoi and occupied the northernmost parts of Vietnam.

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– SoctaticMethod1 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

That's why I give Vietnam credit, they have a limit where they are forced into action, China, a few million even have a billion die and they'd not even blink an eye..

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– SupremeReader [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The situation was so bad, that Communist Party, Khmer Rouge, loyalists crawled out of the killing fields, fled to Vietnam

First of all, KR were literally invading VN. They considered the Mekong Delta theirs and planned to, yeah, kill everyone as usual. Weird story of beautiful Chinese girls helping them at that: https://archive.vn/dmOaf (paging u/TheImpossible1 for him to freak out).

They also killed the ethnic Cambodians who have fled to Cambodia to help them invade, the guys who have been originally armed by the Americans against the VC. Because, well, you know it, they were killing everyone. (They killed most of Cambodia's Chinese minority too.)

Vietnam was really bad at capitalizing (heh) on that because the very same guys (Hun Sen and friends, elderly now but still directly at power) later turned Cambodia into a Chinese colony after VN peaced out.

Cambodia more recently also had some border conflicts with Thailand.

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– SupremeReader [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Also the funny and telling aspect of the Chinese invasion is that they were using the imperial-era maps from their last occupation in the early 19th century.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not surprised.

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– Gizortnik 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

If you didn't expect that Northerners and Southerners are as culturally separate as if they were distinct ethnic groups, you don't have much knowledge over the people Vietnam.

They still absolutely fucking hate each other. They don't necessarily like the Americans, but they despise each other. Always have since the partition, but also before the partition too.

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– SupremeReader [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Oh, actually you don't know something:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/04/30/vietnamese-see-u-s-as-key-ally/

https://borgenproject.org/why-vietnam-loves-the-us/

https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Vietnamese-love-the-US-and-China-cannot-change-that

I heard that the North "colonized" the South but all of Polish Vietnamese i know seem to go perfectly well with each other at least over here, and it never comes into conversations (not to mention some being just mixed race). I guess it's different in America due to the very political Southern exiles and refugees.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

These sources aren't really addressing what I'm talking about. I mean people's specific opinions of Americans in their country. Now, I'm not saying that most Vietnamese hate Americans. I think that there's just a significant minority that do. Every tale I have of Americans going to Vietnam, there's always some person who's furious about blaming something the Americans did in the war on the random American.

That's not everyone, but they are out there, and they probably just don't like foreigners and tourists anyway.

I guess it's different in America due to the very political Southern exiles and refugees.

Given that I cited "Migrations and Cultures", that may be the case.

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– SupremeReader [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The War of Northern Aggression (the South shall Rise again)

I just randomly listened to a very Mongoloid folk metal about Genghis Kahn: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pD1gDSao1eA

enrich the world

The enriched world still traumatised near 1000 years later lol

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Adamrises 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

As a technical Filipino, I am forced to have some affection for the nation. I keep telling myself to learn tagalog, but my grasp of languages has never been strong.

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