It's funny I have known gay people like probably everyone has since wide coming out of the closet. None of them seemed normal to me. The first one I knew was crazy into drugs and managed to kill himself before he was 35 (whether suicide or OD was never clear to me -- I feel like his family would call it a suicide either way) . And I have a lot of sympathy for drug users -- the only real sinner sympathy I can have -- but that was a weird guy.
The second one (bi supposedly) I knew from childhood was just always a pervert, and, God bless him we all have our vices, but it was a pronounced sexual abnormality even as a child.
And then yeah most people I've known that are actually gay have been odd. In the early 2000s I would have chalked it up to the pressure of being in the closet, but there's less of that all the time, and I know a lot more now.
Aren't they, though? The function is the same, and the language of sex has been so debased that saying they aren't is a distinction without practical meaning. Gender is 'out' 'queer' and all about sexual presentation/fetishes-- all 'gay' things! Therefore, gay is inseparable from gender-- because the queer is the archetypal form the genders are derived from.
Or we use the first DSM-- in which case you become correct: Gay is a mental illness, not a gender.
wait
gays aren't a gender
Factually they aren't normal either, despite what Disney tells our kids..
It's funny I have known gay people like probably everyone has since wide coming out of the closet. None of them seemed normal to me. The first one I knew was crazy into drugs and managed to kill himself before he was 35 (whether suicide or OD was never clear to me -- I feel like his family would call it a suicide either way) . And I have a lot of sympathy for drug users -- the only real sinner sympathy I can have -- but that was a weird guy.
The second one (bi supposedly) I knew from childhood was just always a pervert, and, God bless him we all have our vices, but it was a pronounced sexual abnormality even as a child.
And then yeah most people I've known that are actually gay have been odd. In the early 2000s I would have chalked it up to the pressure of being in the closet, but there's less of that all the time, and I know a lot more now.
Aren't they, though? The function is the same, and the language of sex has been so debased that saying they aren't is a distinction without practical meaning. Gender is 'out' 'queer' and all about sexual presentation/fetishes-- all 'gay' things! Therefore, gay is inseparable from gender-- because the queer is the archetypal form the genders are derived from.
Or we use the first DSM-- in which case you become correct: Gay is a mental illness, not a gender.
You honestly just confused me.
Just because you rape a definition, it doesn't mean we have to accept the post-rape definition.
Maybe in Russia women are normal and men are gay.
This is what happens when you force normal people to think about BS.