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The Ukrainian Arms Drain: Now and in the Future (youtu.be)
posted 3 years ago by Rezlung 3 years ago by Rezlung +13 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

NATO bombs killed plenty of people, including in the civilian targets that they gleefully bombed.

And the Russian targeting of the power supply has had rather few casualties, so the West is not crying about civilian casualties, but about how wrong it is to do what they themselves did to Yugoslavia and many other countries.

It's bad when they do it! They bad! Our bombs good!

Your other commenter mentioned Libya, where they used non-explosive (concrete filled, no warheads) smart bombs to target firing positions and vehicles in civilian areas. "They" here being the French (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/04/france-dropping-non-explosive-bombs-libya/350160/), with the Americans and the Brits also employing small warhead munitions like the Brimstone missile.

Thank you, me lord, for... sometimes refraining from using non-explosive "smart" bombs in your war of aggression.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They didn't "gleefully bombed" and it was always extremely controversial in their (our) countries.

The political leaders who never apologized are Putin's buddies Schroeder and Blair.

Biden: https://youtube.com/watch?v=urspubn1pmw

No retard sounds of yours (a retard), and no "War is hell. It's unfortunate, but it is what you guys asked for. Prostituting yourself to the East has some costs" too.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They didn't "gleefully bombed" and it was always extremely controversial in their (our) countries.

Oh, if it being 'controversial' justifies it, then you need to make up your mind about whether the war is controversial in Russia or not.

The political leaders who never apologized are Putin's buddies Schroeder and Blair.

Impressive how you can turn the destruction of Yugoslavia into "Putin bad". Do we then agree that it was bad for the corrupt west to wreck that country?

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It wasn't any "corrupt west" that did things like that in the actual "destruction of Yugoslavia" (another one caught, convicted in Serbia and extradited to Croatia): https://balkaninsight.com/2022/07/12/serbia-extradites-vukovar-massacre-convict-to-croatia/

This war isn't publicly controversial in Russia, because the dissent is criminalized. (They can't even call it a war.)

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It wasn't any "corrupt west" that did things like that in the actual "destruction of Yugoslavia" (another one caught, convicted in Serbia and extradited to Croatia):

But do tell me if you will condemn what the corrupt West did there.

Look, the reason I find Western apologists particularly obnoxious is because of the hypocrisy. If you'd just admit that it's jingoism and your hatred for everything Russian, that's fine. But none of this "our shit don't stink".

This war isn't publicly controversial in Russia, because the dissent is criminalized. (They can't even call it a war.)

I've seen plenty call it a war, and the Russian commentators I follow are quite critical of the Kremlin for being soft. In quite harsh terms, too. Miraculously, they haven't been killed yet, unlike Al-Awlaki and his son.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

We had no state TV shows where people talked about exterminating Serbia in our "jihad" against "Satan" while smiling.

And being controversial means a plenty of people thought it was unjustified, wrong, and even actually criminal, and spoke about it as such. They were in mass media, they were in politics, and they weren't being jailed for this.

It wasn't Yugoslavia, this country had ceased to exist 8 years prior. It was the new "SFR Yugoslavia", and even this minus Montenegro even before Montenegro formally seceded from Serbia. It was really just this, Serbia and Kosovo. And NATO killed only about 3-4% or so of the civilians who died in the Kosovo war.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

We had no state TV shows where people talked about exterminating Serbia in our "jihad" against "Satan" while smiling.

I am not sure why bombing a country to smithereens is better depending on what your state TV is broadcasting.

And being controversial means a plenty of people thought it was unjustified, wrong, and even actually criminal, and spoke about it as such. They were in mass media, they were in politics, and they weren't being jailed for this.

It was criminal, and yet they did it. And if they could, they'd have jailed their critics as well. For now, they must be satisfied with just calling them Putin puppets or Russian spies.

It wasn't Yugoslavia, this country had ceased to exist 8 years prior. It was the new "SFR Yugoslavia", and even this minus Montenegro even before Montenegro formally seceded from Serbia. It was really just this, Serbia and Kosovo. And NATO killed only about 3-4% or so of the civilians who died in the Kosovo war.

So a special military operation in order to protect the Muslims of Albania against Nazi drug addicts? How interesting. But do tell me again that it's OK when you do it.

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