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posted 3 years ago by thuleanperspective 3 years ago by thuleanperspective +1 / -0
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– Gemmaugr 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Remove gay and communism, and I'd have no problem with this. As long as it's voluntary.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Once you reach that point of technical advancement communism actually makes sense, and reproduction is so out of the hands of women that it really doesn't matter how gay you are.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

In a world like that, there's even less of a case for central planning than there is today.

Not true. There's a MASSIVE need for it, and your 'personal' means of production can't really be all that personal, because the situation would turn into an interplanetary hellscape real fast. Think about it - if the means of production is on a personal level, you're dealing with dudes who feel like subjecting entire planets to relativistic kinetic bombardment because their girlfriend dumped them.

No, state control will be required just to keep the whole species being wiped out by the far future equivalent of a school shooter when highschoolers can build weapons that make Tsar bomba look wimpy.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

If technology is sufficient that a single teenager can bombard a planet, then the value of entire planets is minimal.

I doubt it. Bombarding a planet requires nothing more than some rocks and a means to direct them.

Rocks and hydrogen are abundant. Habitable environments are not. Honestly, we will be lucky if we even make it through a few centuries of asteroid mining, since doing just that would put a bunch of corporate drones in charge of robots that can put planet-killing rocks on deadly trajectories.

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– Gemmaugr 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

True. With (almost) unlimited Zero-Point/Vacuum Energy and FemtoTech 3D printing replicators in an endless matter environment like space then it's no longer a matter of private properties being valued for their artificial limit, but function. Just make another one. That said, I don't think of it as communism at all though, as that would require a central resource allocation and a rigid structure of government to enforce it, being about equity, not equality. The surface distinction might not look any different at a glance, but the underlying principles are vastly different. Collective vs Individuality, Minarchism vs Authoritarianism. I think we agree that big corporations and their interference in politics is what needs to change however. Especially patents, IP laws.

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, those two are the only parts I really take issue with. Mind uploading also gives me pause, but the rest sounds like a good time.

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– Gemmaugr 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Mind uploading gives me pause too, but only because I don't think it would be "me". I'd prefer a slower replace of neurons with artificial ones instead, in the real world. It shouldn't hinder diving into the digital aether either.

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– ailurus 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Nah. It's just bad regardless. Sure, removing the gay and communism would improve it some, but it doesn't address the biggest issue. Look up the Calhoun Rat Utopia experiments. Or the fact that the nosiest and craziest elements which are working to shift society today are primarily upper middle class urban kids who haven't had to work for a thing in their lives.

Conflict, stress, work ethic and even scarcity are necessary for a stable society. If you just give everyone whatever they want, things will inevitably decay into a miserable place.

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– OldBullLee 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Gay Space Communism . . . isn't that what we're doing now?

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