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Ukraine shells a Polish border town to get NATO to go to war with Russia (media.communities.win)
posted 3 years ago by Chukna 3 years ago by Chukna +79 / -0
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– xleb2 46 points 3 years ago +46 / -0

I would upvote this, but the whole Ukraine issue is such a long ongoing clusterfuck of lies, embezzlement, and tragedy, it's above my pay grade.

Maybe there's a better place on .win to discuss the war stuff.

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– SupremeReader 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Biden right away said it's a not a missile from Russia. It was actually tracked by an AWACS all the way.

There were early rumors of 2 missiles but there was only 1.

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– fauxgnaws 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Biden had to say it was not Russian because otherwise the doomsday clock would be at like 1 femtosecond from nuclear war.

Ukraine probably fucked up, but even if it was Russia we'd never know because all the world agencies would collude to make us believe it wasn't Russia.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Also the newest news is that Duda just announced there was no warhead explosion, only of "remnants of rocket fuel".

While Ukraine maintains they did hit a Russian missile fired from the Caspian Sea and there should be also debris of the Russian missile somewhere (initial reports were also of 2 missiles but only because of witnesses hearing 2 "loud whistles" and nothing material).

There are drones and a police helicopter searching the area.

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

And actually not even hushing up at all as they just announced these 2 are getting a state funeral (and yes, big compensation money). And so they're turning it into another of their parades. Also typical, but good for the families at least.

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– raptor_jesus 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

A payoff is not worth a son, mother, daughter, or father

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– SupremeReader 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It would to be something evidently deliberate, like the Russians killed almost 200 Dutch by accident in 2014 and there was no serious response because it was obviously not done on purpose.

Hell, even deliberate attacks like the chemical and radioactive assassination shenigans in London with widespread contaminations and random people getting poisoned didn't do anything but some sanctions.

Or like this EU or CoE or OSCEE (don't even rememeber) bureau being hit actually accurately in Kyiv a few weeks ago, just nothing in response.

For all the memes, the West is actually very reluctant to heat things up.

The gov in Poland is pretty much hushing it up, actually the oppo coalition leader Tusk is more vocal (and faulting Russia "100% no matter what really happened" which is a direct quote as I remembered him saying it morning today).

But the families of these 2 guys (Polish cirizen locals in their 60s, a tractor driver and a warehouse worker) being well compensated might be very public, the gov loves showing off all kinds of stuff even big military parades and huge propaganda posters on entire buildings.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Yeah, I don't know anything that would allow me to say whether this has a shred of legitimacy or otherwise.

If it's truly accurate information, it honestly points more accident/incompetence/a rogue element than something that came down from the Ukraine's top brass - surely Ukraine has some captured Russian rockets lying around somewhere, they could have used those.

If they were foolhardy enough to use their rockets identifiable as their own, then that would almost make me think Poland is itching to go to war with a weakened Russia and told Ukraine to perform a false flag attack against them.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Polish ambassador tweeted "thank you America" and a picture of the Nordstream bubbling in the sea, so yeah I don't know, Poland really do be retarded

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– ryry117 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Why wouldn't that be American sabotage?

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– SupremeReader 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It's really an Ukrainian (anti-missile) missile.

Everything will be said soon in an official statement (and I wouldn't be surprised if the 2 agro workers hit and killed by it were also from Ukraine, over 1/5 of all people in the Lubelszczyzna are now from Ukraine and the hit place was right at the border).

(Lubelszczyzna is a fun word for a foreigner, say it quickly 5 times. One of its towns is Szczebrzeszyn.)

Ukrainians captured a lot of Russian SAMs but no S-300s (and no S-400s too) for they're long range systems and so don't really show up on the frontlines. But Russian territory (Bolgorod region) was hit by a faulty Russia's own S-300s repeatedly and by an S-400 at least once (as it tried to intercept the American made HARM missiles that targeted the radars at Belgorod Air Base).

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– yamez 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Szczebrzeszyn? Ja słyszałem że Szczebrzeszyn słynie na powodu Brzmiących Chrząszczy w trzcinie!

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– SupremeReader 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, it's a children's rhyme (z powodu).

One village in elsewhere is Wrzeszczewice.

https://www.ling.upenn.edu/~beatrice/humor/clinton-deploys-vowels.html

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– NoEyesNoGroin 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The image in OP is blatant plagiarism - the original post is here. They copy-paste it because Russian propagandists don't want the brainwashed Z-tards to start getting their info from sources like that, which are at least somewhat unbiased.

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– deleted 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0
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– SupremeReader 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The OP posted a literal copy-paste (not even a retweet) tailored for people who hate seeing Ukrainian flags so they could soyjak about it as some sinister secret plot uncovered by people with no Ukrainian flag in their username.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
... continue reading thread?
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– NoEyesNoGroin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I don't know what you're smoking but one thing is for sure, I am not going to respond to anyone with the word "Ukraine" in their comment.

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– SupremeReader 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It's also much more detailed with more pictures and info the followup posts.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Gonna reply to this again because I just saw this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNAaD_a0NJY

If you're short on time, skip to about 2:50, postulates that russian cruise missile overshot its target - a power pylon - by 7km.

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– SupremeReader 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

It's really not a Russian missile, just early media reports assumed so. Like there were also reports of multiple missiles just because someone said of hearing two whistles. It fell right on this tractor and so the very first reports presumed a tractor exploded in a freak accident.

The closest Ukrainian city hit yesterday was a good 65 km from the Polish border but the S-300 has more than twice that range and it probably fell out of fuel.

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– IamM 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

There was actually a meme about it a while back which revolved around "Trump ties the left to ukraine, suggests embezzlement and corruption. Left denies all allegations. ???. Left then asks you donate money towards ukraine."

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