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Ron Desantis is now ahead of Donald Trump in new separate polls conducted in Iowa, New Hampshire, Texas, Georgia, Florida and a national poll in race for 2024 Republican Presidential candidate. How do you see this race between them playing out? (media.patriots.win)
posted 2 years ago by Fentolldsoa 2 years ago by Fentolldsoa +118 / -51
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– Guildpro101 24 points 2 years ago +25 / -1

We have to ask, why the sudden change? DeSantis is good in all.... but why dispose of Trump so fast by everyone?

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– Assassin47 44 points 2 years ago +49 / -5

Because it's a pre-planned, coordinated Dump Trump narrative and astroturfing campaign. IMO (though not directly provable) the election fraud was also perpetuated along those lines, to make it appear that anyone who supported Trump or was an "election denier" lost popular support. The system is trying to protect itself.

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– NoGardE 28 points 2 years ago +30 / -2

Yep. DeSantis is good on exactly two issues: school curriculum and the coof. They feel secure on both, especially if DeSantis stops being a governor and enters the Washington machine where he can be contained. He is just as bad as Jeb Bush on every other metric.

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– Salixion 5 points 2 years ago +7 / -2

Yea I've not seen him strike serious blows against Disney who tried to take over the government.

Always been my stance he needs to prove himself standing for America ALWAYS not just sometimes and expect a pat on the back.

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– truenationalist 7 points 2 years ago +11 / -4

Him "Standing Up" to Disney was... Removing their special self-governance privilege, and also encouraging the legislature to pass a bill that prohibited teachers from injecting gender ideology into schools below grade 3 or something.

Ron has made many nice gestures, but I don't see them as significant accomplishments within the broader political context.

Real accomplishments would be: Criminal prosecutions of Disney executives. Criminal prosecutions of Teachers Association criminals grooming children. I'll celebrate when we get there, not before.

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– cronoes 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

It is quite astonishing how many of those on the right want to believe that you can explain our current system and news cycle as anything other than bad faith in origin.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

the election fraud was also perpetuated along those lines, to make it appear that anyone who supported Trump or was an "election denier"

We had a globalist shill here doing exactly that. He accused me of being a far right Trumper for calling out the GOP's spineless response to the stolen election. Sure, I've preferred DeSantis since long before he looked like a serious alternative to Trump, but why let facts get in the way of a good astroturfing campaign? DeSantis caught my eye in 2020 when he actually did something about the BLM riots.

But yeah, obvious astroturfing campaign is obvious. Regardless of where you stand on the Trump/DeSantis debate you would have to be blind to not see that the midterm farce followed by this shilling is the blue and red parts of the uniparty colluding to purge Trump, and more importantly the Trump base. The Ryan/McConnell wing would rather destroy the party than lose control of it.

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– Piroko 13 points 2 years ago +23 / -10

Because his attack on DeSantis was petulant.

By his own actions he signaled his weakness; the strong move would have been to congratulate DeSantis and belittle McConnell for pulling out of winnable races.

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– elleand202 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Plus, why the attack on Youngkin? I don't think that there's anyone who seriously thinks that Youngkin is a major contender in the Presidential race.

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– Piroko 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yep. It was punching down, and punching down is not a sign of strength.

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– dekachin 0 points 2 years ago +6 / -6

the strong move would have been to congratulate DeSantis and belittle McConnell for pulling out of winnable races.

Trump has never had good political instincts. He is only good at serving up red meat at rallies.

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– Piroko 4 points 2 years ago +6 / -2

He HAD good brand instincts. But the older he gets the more his preference for personal loyalty takes precedence over projecting the proper image.

90's Trump wouldn't have made such a mistake as punching down at someone who just scored a big win.

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– deleted 5 points 2 years ago +8 / -3
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– TheImpossible1 -1 points 2 years ago +10 / -11

His loyalty to the NOW is being rewarded.

Conspiracy theories aside, because he's the establishment chosen one to direct the MAGA movement away from things that might actually harm their corporate backers.

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