Someone asked me if I ran a film what movies would as use as examples of what not to do. I said female Ghostbusters is the perfect example of placing agenda ahead of the story as well as ignoring what the audience actually wants. I know Last Jedi would be an example but there seems to be so many things wrong. What is it an example of? Any other movies you can think of?
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I’ll always love pre Disney Star Wars and read a lot of the expanded universe books and comics. I never thought a company would make me lose interest in Star Wars. I remember thinking after rise of Skywalker that if that was the best they had they should’ve loosely adapted Thrawn trilogy or New Jedi Order plot. And yes I remember moronic critics saying “you are just mad because you wanted to see a more powerful Luke”. Well what’s wrong with that? That movie is the reason I’m fed up with deconstruction. I went to the comic book store and bought some classic Superman comics to cleanse my palate
Return of the Jedi is actually a pretty spotty movie. The initial rescue mission is wildly disconnected from the rest of the plot, obi wan’s excuse for lying to Luke about his father was garbage, and Leia being Luke’s sister was an idiotic and desperate attempt to recapture Empire’s legendary twist. The sister reveal was indirectly responsible for much of the nonsense in TLJ.
I love Return of the Jedi but I can see that. You ever read his original plan for Star Wars? There is a comic book miniseries. I guess it’s closer to plot of Hidden Fortress only in space
What are you talking about?
Mortal Kombat was awesome. It had the fuckin Highlander as Raiden.
Nah, bro. He acquired literal plot armor. It was brilliant writing, lol
Moonfall, absolute trash in every way. Jungle Cruise was pretty darn awful. But the absolute epitomy of terribleness in every way was Don't Look Up. It was so bad they don't even know you could apply everything in that movie to Covid and everyone on one side of the argument would immediately switch to the other side of the argument.
Oddly I kind of liked the movie for this reason. My girlfriend is a massive normie, but is hesitant for vaccines because of her heart condition which isolated her from some of her family, so when we watched this movie she related so hard with the covid pandemic and it redpilled her faster than I ever could have Edit* Dont look up I mean
My man. It took me half the movie before I figured out they weren't talking about covid, but climate change. Use their own propaganda against them!
Have you seen The Incredible Benedict Society on Disney? We cancelled Disney+ but had watched this series before our cancellation was up. It is similar in that the theme is basically media manipulation of society, and its just mind blowing how Disney doesn't see how they are the evil portrayed in their own series!
I'm proud not to know any of those movies.
I'd go for a a contrast study on the LotR trilogy and the Hobbit trilogy.
The whole Star Wars sequel trilogy, not just TLJ
The Room
Captain Marvel
Doctor Strange 2
The Predator
Doctor Strange 2 is In the Multiverse of Madness so you have the correct film in mind. It does have a lot of "you might not notice it, but your brain did" type of stupidity that you might detect subtly but cannot really describe.
If there is one consistent issue throughout, it's characters being dumb and inconsistent. It affects action scenes (like Strange and Wong trying to pull that giant tentacle monster off a building using only their own body weight) and character moments (Chavez says the first rule of multiverse travel is not to assume anything then immediately assumes food is free. Strange does not acknowledge her breaking her own rules).
Strange's character arc is also undone. MoM has him back to being a control freak (the whole "he must hold the knife" thing), but in Infinity War, he knowingly allowed himself to get snapped and left the fate of the universe in the hands of the surviving Avengers. He already demonstrated a willingness to let go of control.
Mauler did like a six hour video explaining everything stupid in strange 2.
only six hours.
I see, he's getting old.
All movies that promote a cultural agenda are problematic. I'd use movies to depict reality not an idealized form of what people want reality to be. Most movies these days are nothing but propaganda to try and indoctrinate people into perceiving reality wrong.
Like in the Last Jedi when they were in the casino giving the speech about wealth and the rich. I was rolling my eyes. Well one of many times I rolled my eyes.
Sky Captain. It's the movie that started a lot of trends. I really like it, but I can see the cracks in the wall from it.
The one with Angelina Jolie? That was made to look like a 30s serial? What was the agenda?
The agenda was to make the best film two geeks could think of. The movie making process was entirely green screen, hiring out multiple companies for effects, and Angelina Jolie being crazy. This is what sparked the marvel movies and others to be made in the same way, and with giant corporate messaging.
Those epic movies from the 70's where hundreds and even thousands of extras were hired are amazing. It's also why FX was made. No one could afford it.
Star Wars had a small budget for filming, and a large budget for FX. Sky Captain used FX to create impossible scenes. They had a budget and couldn't make half the props needed.
I think Lord of the Rings was the best FX and props show because they knew how to mix it. They didn't need thousands hired for this scene, but anything closer needed people with props and characters.
Sean Payton movie was that bad?