It’s at the point I don’t even bother, game of thrones after season 5 was so horrendous that it killed any interest in the adaptation of books anymore, so far I haven’t been proven wrong.
Plus it's clear the books themselves are never going to be finished so there's no reason to care about the setting at all. There are far better grimdark fantasies out there made by people who can actually come up with a satisfying conclusion and are willing to actually write it. You have to be realistic.
My personal favorite is Joe Abercrombie's work. His Circle of the World setting starts with The Blade Itself and consists of 3 completed trilogies and a short story collection.
Was that the season with the 'Sons of the Harpy' shit in Mareen? I always felt like something was 'off' about that season, like they were wasting my time with stupid plots that made no sense. Yeah I'm not gonna believe that a bunch of fat merchants were willing to suicidally attack a bunch of trained soldiers and somehow fucking win, literally charging with no regard for their lives like a bunch of insane zombies. That was so goddamn stupid and for me that was the moment the show jumped the shark.
I know but I’d be lying if I said I’m not going to be pre-ordering Winds of Winter when it’s announced. Although GRRM got mad because fans keep asking about that book and they don’t care as much about his other projects. Thankfully there are other more reliable authors.
Nothing can compete with your imagination. Unless you're one of the many left-wingers with aphantasia and are literally unable to conceptualize original thought.
Agreed. I get that you can’t perfectly adapt a book but they don’t even try to adapt the spirit of the story. Wheel of Time showrunner is a primary example of totally bastardizing a story to inject his personal crap
I dunno. I read the LOTR as a kid and loved it. I tried to re-reading it like twenty years later, and I honestly couldn't get through the second book. I don't know, it felt like it was wasting so much of my time. There's just insanely long stretches of absolute nothing.
When I read a story, I must take time afterwards to reflect upon it. I read it, but I don't really "read" it in full until I go back over it in my mind.
Tolkein was not a good writer. He was a great writer, but not a good one. His pacing is awful, his story beats are irregular, and his narrative focus meanders like a drunken Irishman.
But he built a world. A new world. A world that, as a child, you did not experience before. You went back and reflected on the story. No reference points, no preconceptions. You experienced a whole new world. Some parts were oddly paced, but as a child, those were times you'd be imagining the rest of the world.
Now? Jaded, experienced with carefully crafted narratives, colored by the movies' pacing. You're probably not leaning back after reading it, imagining being in that world. The book has not changed, but you have. You're observing the flaws, noticing the story beats.
But as you yourself stated, as a kid, you loved it. Prior to that movie set, prior to adding new preconceptions, you loved it.
Pompous reply aside, that second book is a slog at times, for sure. Weakest of the trilogy.
And I’m sick of fans of the books getting crap for wanting an accurate depiction or at least an attempt at an accurate depiction.
It’s at the point I don’t even bother, game of thrones after season 5 was so horrendous that it killed any interest in the adaptation of books anymore, so far I haven’t been proven wrong.
Plus it's clear the books themselves are never going to be finished so there's no reason to care about the setting at all. There are far better grimdark fantasies out there made by people who can actually come up with a satisfying conclusion and are willing to actually write it. You have to be realistic.
Any recommendations?
My personal favorite is Joe Abercrombie's work. His Circle of the World setting starts with The Blade Itself and consists of 3 completed trilogies and a short story collection.
Was that the season with the 'Sons of the Harpy' shit in Mareen? I always felt like something was 'off' about that season, like they were wasting my time with stupid plots that made no sense. Yeah I'm not gonna believe that a bunch of fat merchants were willing to suicidally attack a bunch of trained soldiers and somehow fucking win, literally charging with no regard for their lives like a bunch of insane zombies. That was so goddamn stupid and for me that was the moment the show jumped the shark.
I know but I’d be lying if I said I’m not going to be pre-ordering Winds of Winter when it’s announced. Although GRRM got mad because fans keep asking about that book and they don’t care as much about his other projects. Thankfully there are other more reliable authors.
And even if by some miracle he does, the last book, A Dream of Spring, damn sure is never getting written.
Season 5 was where atrocious as well. Wasn't that the season with Jaime and Bronne's trip to Dorne?
Seasons 1-4 are solid imo.
Books are always better.
Nothing can compete with your imagination. Unless you're one of the many left-wingers with aphantasia and are literally unable to conceptualize original thought.
Agreed. I get that you can’t perfectly adapt a book but they don’t even try to adapt the spirit of the story. Wheel of Time showrunner is a primary example of totally bastardizing a story to inject his personal crap
I dunno. I read the LOTR as a kid and loved it. I tried to re-reading it like twenty years later, and I honestly couldn't get through the second book. I don't know, it felt like it was wasting so much of my time. There's just insanely long stretches of absolute nothing.
When I read a story, I must take time afterwards to reflect upon it. I read it, but I don't really "read" it in full until I go back over it in my mind.
Tolkein was not a good writer. He was a great writer, but not a good one. His pacing is awful, his story beats are irregular, and his narrative focus meanders like a drunken Irishman.
But he built a world. A new world. A world that, as a child, you did not experience before. You went back and reflected on the story. No reference points, no preconceptions. You experienced a whole new world. Some parts were oddly paced, but as a child, those were times you'd be imagining the rest of the world.
Now? Jaded, experienced with carefully crafted narratives, colored by the movies' pacing. You're probably not leaning back after reading it, imagining being in that world. The book has not changed, but you have. You're observing the flaws, noticing the story beats.
But as you yourself stated, as a kid, you loved it. Prior to that movie set, prior to adding new preconceptions, you loved it.
Pompous reply aside, that second book is a slog at times, for sure. Weakest of the trilogy.