For the life of me I don’t understand the hate this book gets. Well I didn’t notice any hate til the weirdos infested sci-fi and you started seeing awards given to women who just whine about racism or patriarchy. I liked the movie for what it was but a faithful adaptation would be amazing. But at this point I wouldn’t want Hollywood anywhere near his works.
Comments (28)
sorted by:
Very well said! Thanks!
It's always drawn hate.
Heinlein of the late 50's definitely lived down to the stereotype of a sneering STEM nerd telling an english major to get a real job. Which didn't sit too well since at that point he hadn't touched engineering for decades, had flopped at politics, and had been writing professionally for years.
True. I know it was always controversial but the usual suspects seem to really hate it. I’m biased since I’m a veteran but I think the idea of some sort of service is interesting. Maybe not military but it’s an interesting concept.
Imagine if we actually put the US army corps of engineers to use in AMERICA instead of building gender transition clinics in Malawi, what a mind-bottling idea!
Definitely. They have actually built gender transition centers overseas?
Hah sorry that’s just my sense of humor - No, not to my knowledge at least. They do have a huge hard-on for building girls schools in muslim majority nations though, but that has more debatable merit
I mean its the ONLY way we could ever come close to providing the free/universal <insert thing> that progressives demand. But the idea of putting in work to get something in return is beyond the average college commie.
Oh. You are saying that if you want the free medical care then you need to work for it? Like a certain contract?
Yes but I’m the military. Military had a ton of non combat jobs like cook, maintenance, etc.
I don't think a faithful adaptation of the novel would actual make for a good film. The majority of the book is just a prolonged discussion of philosophy interspersed with the odd flashback. It's more of a discussion or a monologue than an actual story being told. The film we got was probably the best we're likely to get, although I think there is an old anime adaptation that I keep meaning to hunt down and watch, so who knows?
Ok I realized this as I typed it. I loved the philosophy but yes I can imagine that wouldn’t translate well. Stranger in A Strange Land, Job, or Moon is a Harsh Mistress yes but I don’t trust Hollywood for that. Same with Friday or Farnham’s Freehold
There's an animated series that's a little (in a relative sense) closer to the books called Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles. It still stays away from the meritocracy aspects of the book (service guarantees citizenship).
Really hate the constant background music on it, though. I wish they'd put that crap on separate audio channel so you could turn it off.
His early "golden age" scifi, yes. His later books were kind of Biden'esk creepy old man stuff, though. Banging his Mom, sister, underage daughters that were female clones of himself.
Dude definitely took a turn for the weird.
It think Stranger In A Strange Land and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress were meant more as Brave New World-like warnings about what societies with no moral grounding will eventually degenerate into.
I think it was either T2 or salvation where Cameron said how it was like a child realizing too late that it couldn't take it's actions back and was trying to groom John into the savior, but because doing so caused it to conflict with it's own survival it trapped itself in a never ending loop of assassination attempts
A cool adaptation would be Space Cadet, Podykane of Mars or Have Spacesuit Will Travel. I would’ve loved an adaptation or animated one as a kid. Heck, if done correctly it could work now
If we're talking about the same kind of weirdos, they hate everything. I liken them to the blob, they pretend to like stuff to get in, then they keep suggesting changes to 'appeal to a larger audience '. If they are entertained than told to fuck off, said IP becomes a part of the blob, no real identity, no unique qualities just a different coat of paint to a grey goo.
Your best bet is if some independent creator does something on it, like Warhammer before games workshop screwed it up or a lot of the Backrooms stuff that's been popping up.
If you haven't seen it already, check out Sargon's analysis of the politics of Starship Troopers. He goes into detail as to why it is not fascism.
Thanks! Can’t wait to watch.
slightly more accurate to the book adaption you say?
may I interest you in an anime? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-A-cXgIm38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjrz7_y3nGA&list=PLrPVT5RfI89fEc40nxx7NgaFevnZykjyr
its not completely accurate to the book but its a bit more faithful than the film
Thanks!
Especially Tom Cruise.