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Follow-up re the Kim Petras thing yesterday. I wanted to (briefly) see just how bad this was, given that fucking Reddit "popheads" was all over it... I actually can't believe this is how bad pop music is, post-WAP and all that shit. And yes, "she" is trans. But the music is also fucking awful... (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
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– loubag1997 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Our society has never been so degenerate, it’s almost like people are making up for the “lost years” of the Victorian Era, Puritanism, post-war nuclear family values, etc. This is definitely getting just as bad or worse than Ancient Rome and Weimar Republic

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– bamboozler1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Seeing as this is a "pride anthem album" (apparently, while also being "feminist" and "empowering to all women", somehow), this is a "good" tie-in to just how fucked up mainstream shit has become:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/06/29/pride-month-kink-consent/

"Yes, kink belongs at Pride. And I want my children to see it." - WaPo.

Well, that's enough internet for today...

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– bamboozler1 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I'm not quite sure how "empowering" "Europop" or "womanhood" reached this point, but apparently this is where we are at, now...

There's literally goat sounds on this album. Brian Wilson (ya know, Beach Boys, Pet Sounds) eat your heart out...

I will obviously never listen to this again (mental torture, no thanks), but maaaannn, I actually underestimated how bad "we" (mainstream Western society) had become...

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– bamboozler1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I must also admit, "transphobic" or otherwise as it may be, that it is... Somewhat harder to take these sorts of lyrics seriously while knowing... Who "she" is.

Like, fine, I accept the "treat me like a woman, reee!" shit, to an extent, but... It's just not the same. And the "sex lyrics" and general trashiness, combined with all that, make the whole thing... Rather surreal.

If "she" was cis, I guess I would just think this was thotty, degenerate, deliberately vulgar crap. But she ain't, so... It feels more like "fantasy wish fulfilment" on her part, tbh.

It's all very weird.

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– ImThrowing4U 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Bro if you don't shut the fuck up with that tranny lover shit

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– bamboozler1 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Fair. I don't mind "sex in music" per se, but this whole album is just... Sex. There is no substance. It is just that. It's like... Vulgarity personified. Which, I suppose, suits her... Schtick (though you say she used to be better), but man, it's like... Degeneracy defined, especially coming from someone with, ehem, that background...

I actually think this album is equally as bad as WAP, which is saying something. But like you say, if you're into that Ashnikko-type shit, it might not come across quite as cringe...

I don't like anything about this stuff, tbh. Like, any of it, lol. Even if it is popular.

If you want to recommend me more, I'll give it a go, but it's clearly... Not my thing. Ha.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This is not a discussion I was expecting to be having here, tbh, but, sigh, she may very well still be the trans singer you were looking for (unless you find them. Let us know, lol)...

This is her cover of "Running Up That Hill": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pH0-32fHU8

It's... Ok.

Music I'm into? Ah, well, it's not going to be anything like what we are talking about here...

Hockey Dad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCjXvpj4jpI

Middle Kids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-xPosJqePo

Skegss (not into this one as much):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r72uIs69DHg

Rolling Blackouts (Coastal Fever):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj5tH-6vNKY

And finally, Phantastic Ferniture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpam-XmVTPY&lc=UgxibCJgZPokeN1YyaF4AaABAg

All of these bands are Australian (East Coast, mostly NSW). I think they would probably be described as "indie" or "alternative".

More broadly, my favourite genre is jangle pop (Yazoo, the Byrds, Go Betweens, Bangles, etc), and things inspired by it. Early-90s pre-grunge is my... Era (I wasn't alive yet. I just like the music from that time, lol).

I used to go to a lot of gigs (pre-Covid), and I have always gone to music festivals. I listen to a lot of music, just generally not the kind of stuff that is popular now, especially on Tiktok/amongst most people younger than me, lol...

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– bamboozler1 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I should add to this, Australia has a very strong "alt" music scene, especially in the bigger cities, but really, pretty much most population centres with young people have a "scene", of some description.

So hearing this sort of music is pretty unavoidable, even if you don't really listen to the radio much (me, now). But the "national broadcaster" (Triple J, and the ABC more broadly) also defines much of what is seen as "cool" and "popular"... So they've flogged most of these bands on high rotation at some point, even before I got to see most of them in gigs and the like...

I suppose that is arguably how I got into them, lol. But generally I just hear a song in some form of media (TV, radio, at a bar, sports match, whatever), then if I like it, I look up the band, and go from there! Or at a music festival and then the same, lol. Which works, but is also why all of those acts are Aussie, haha.

They're not necessarily my favourites. They're just my favourite "current shit", lol...

Also Wolf Alice. I quite like Wolf Alice. Who are obviously not Aussie.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I find it somewhat amusing that (Cr)Apple Music will allow you to listen to this incredibly vulgar album in its entirety, with no censoring, if you will, but there is literally no version of Teenage Dirtbag (Wheatus) or Flagpole Sitta (Harvey Danger) on there that is uncensored... One for guns, one for swearing.

Let alone the artists and songs that were completely removed during the last couple of years, as people have previously posted about...

Insane...

This is no better than the censorship of the early 2000s (in the US, mostly), or the 80s (UK, mostly - because of the Falklands War, allegedly), by the other side...

It's just different people censoring and promoting different things, but it is certainly no better when it is "degenerate leftist corporate* doing the censoring of things they claim not to like, while promoting this crap.

Eugh...

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– ImThrowing4U 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Drag h(im)er through the streets naked and throw rotten food and shit at h(im)er while screaming "SHAME" and ringing a huge bell

Edit: fuck trannies, I hope God exists just so I can see them burning in hell right next to me

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– Vicious_snek6 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Another two landmarks in degeneracy would be

Wrecking ball, watching the daughter of a country singer do that in front of the nation, it couldn't be more emblematic of what hollyweird is trying to achieve for the kids of country folk.

And then Sia's Chandelier (and that other one with shia lebuff), with 2.5 and 1B+ billion views. At least Brittney was just cosplaying in that school uniform. They're pushing it younger and younger, that's the other side of it.

Like bamboozler noted, nicki is saying some sensible things now, and I hear that filtering through effectively to, the type of person who likes her music, family members who are influenced by that sort of person. And it's good.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Shania Twain kind of always did that to some extent, though, no?

Like, "That Don't Impress Me Much" is, uhh, well, she's not wearing much in that video either, tbh...

But yeah, I see your point. Haven't really watched her live stuff, so I guess that may have changed.

Agreed about Nicki Minaj. I was never really into her music, although she actually says decently intelligent things, sometimes, nowadays (like with Corona. See also: Vanessa Hudgens), so... I hate her less than when she was popular, perhaps, lol. But yes, she definitely contributed to this trend, let's say...

I think what's significant about this is that we are (all) expected to LIKE it, and find it "empowering", or whatever. But it's also that "she" is trans. That is important, here.

She's not even a "born woman", if you will. Which is definitely a jump from say, Minaj, or even Cardi B or whatever...

Very current year, really.

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