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Rudy Giuliani: "The sanctions are working... we saw a man trying to sell his internal organs for 500 American dollars" (regarding Iran) (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +28 / -0
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– ailurus 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Working? WORKING? Maybe if your goal is to be an inhumane monster. Reducing someone to that point and celebrating it is evil.

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– JuanTitor 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Were old school siege tactics evil? Because in theory this is like surrounding a walled city.

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– lapalapa 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Excellent counter-argument you bring up. The real question would then be whether or not the war is just (I do believe that sanctions intense enough to provoke a revolution is an act of war, especially if purposefully aimed towards it).

St. Thomas Aquinas has three conditions which need to met before a war can be called “just”:

  1. Does the prince who declares war have the correct authority to do so?
  2. Does the war declaring nation have just cause to seek redress for an injury done to it?
  3. Does the party declaring war have just intent in promoting good or avoiding evil?

Ignorant as I am, I'll try to answer these questions:

  1. Yes, the federal government has the authority to declare war (or enact/influence acts of war by today's modern forms of warfare).
  2. Who knows who deserves what at this point in the middle east. Redress of injury isn't the goal so much as making Iran predictable.
  3. I don't know. It's either a desire for stability or a desire to consolidate power. Iran is either a danger worse than North Korea that would use nukes suicidally if they had them, or a country that wishes it had deterrents to safeguard itself from the west.

Answers to questions 2 and 3 aren't clear. That's all I got.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The difference being that those besieging the city were placing themselves at great risk of death and disease, so they did not do it lightly. Now people in airconditioned offices sentence thousands to death by drones or through sanctions, and there's nothing in terms of risk for them.

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