I find this topic particularly bleak and frustrating...
The closure of Ayers Rock, and everything that happened around that (and yes, I did climb, a month before it closed) was probably my first real big "red/blackpill", when I realised that this was a war, and that my "friends" would throw me under the bus to win woke points...
So this is... Pretty mortifying. Especially knowing that we are powerless. Voting won't work. Protesting won't work (it's very easy to just call any protestors "bigots" and dismiss anything they have to say). Essentially, this is, short of a major change in momentum/politic will, a foregone conclusion. They don't care what we, the voters, think. They don't care what disparate Aboriginal groups think. They only care what the loud, white "Abbo" activists in the cities think, and scream about.
This is, in essence, a true culture war, and "We, the people", are losing... :-(
Watching the local (public broadcaster) news last night - during the weather, all geographical place names are no longer listed in English. They're in the Aboriginal conlang they made up, for this place, instead...
Initially it was "English name (Aboriginal Name)". Then it became "English Name/Aboriginal Name". Then the order reversed. Now the English name is not even mentioned...
This happened with Ayers Rock, too. It's one massive step in the erasure of the dominant culture and language. So much so that the mountain I grew up around is now no longer ever mentioned by its English name, in the media, despite Joe Public never really calling it the name they made up less than a decade ago (with the exclusion of the very woke, naturally)...
See also: "Native" >>"Aborigine" >> "Aboriginal" >> "Indigenous >> (in the past year, straight out of Canada) "First Nations", and now, if you don't use the current term, you're a "racist"... FML...
It's the media, man. It's always the fucking media...
And morally weak bureaucrats, politicians and academics, of course...
Symphony Orchestra concerts. Floyd happened in America, of course. Yet, since concerts resumed post-Coof, the local orchestra, at the start of each concert, conducts a fucking struggle session...
Every concert, a member of the orchestra is forced to stand up, and not just "acknowledge country", but also blab on about "white guilt", "sovereignty never ceded", "feel bad, whiteys", etc... And then the audience is made to clap, and if they don't, they are politely "told off" by the ushers...
And then they play 1 hour+ of European (mostly) classical music, with zero Aboriginal people on stage (usually), and very likely less than 10 in the whole audience, ever...
It got so bad that I stopped going. Yet my family laps it right up. Family friends fall over themselves to applaud its "brilliance". It is very much like a cult...
Supposedly, this started because the concerts were being livestreamed, but it is very apparent that they have made it a habitual, performative thing, since that time. And everyone just plays along, or is asked to leave. It is absolutely fucked.
And then in the last year woke musicians (not necessarily classical ones) including people I went to school with, started referring to the city, the city, by its conlang name, which has only existed for... Less than five years. Insane...
So yeah. It's so much worse than you might even have thought. It is literally like a slow, slow takeover, and inversion of the society I was born into, smh...
And then in the last year woke musicians (not necessarily classical ones) including people I went to school with, started referring to the city, the city, by its conlang name, which has only existed for... Less than five years. Insane...
Are you doing badthink about retiring the old badthink names, comrade? That's doubleplus ungood!
More seriously ... Did the aboriginal inhabitants build the city? If not, isn't their appropriation of the name just as bad imposing "Ayer's Rock" on something they themselves named?
Oh, silly me, I forgot whitey is untermensch and must be removed in the name of kindness and fairness.
Yeah, you get what's going on here, just as I do...
Hell, if they didn't have utter, bald-faced hypocrisy, they would have nothing. Which is, perhaps, where I began to smell something... Rather fishy, about the whole thing...
It's remarkably similar to what happened in parts of (now) Poland and the Czech Republic/"Czechia", after the fall of the Nazis and the expulsion of the Germans... Also "Kaliningrad"/Königsberg, of course...
Also India and China, post-whitey. India, I guess, is the most similar, given that places like Calcutta, Goa and Bombay were founded by le evil huwhite males...
However the difference here is that it is whitey doing it, at the behest of these minority activists. In a place that is like... 95%+ white. To appease less than 2% (!!) of the local population...
That... "Self-own", if you will, is remarkable. You don't really see that very much, outside the Anglosphere, lol.
NZ, Canada, Greenland and Alaska are worse than current Aus, though I think only two of those have actually started "renaming" cities, so in that sense, I guess we are "behind" the eight ball...
shivers I really don't see this ending well. For anyone...
However the difference here is that it is whitey doing it, at the behest of these minority activists. In a place that is like... 95%+ white. To appease less than 2% (!!) of the local population...
I'm fairly sure those white activists simply do not regard themselves as the same population as you, and that, left unchecked, this will manifest itself in far worse ways than merely renaming places.
Re: the concerts. ha. At least Midnight Oil walked the walk with having a one-armed, digiri-doo player with them on tour (fundraising thing for drought-stricken farmers, that got delayed a day or two because of a flood on Nullarbor Plain. I went to this, wish I had a video. 1995.) They even let him do a solo, it was pretty awesome. Why don't these struggle session guys do that?
And look, I wouldn't care, if they didn't insist that it is now the ONLY term that can be used. Vis-à-vis the previous terms "Indigenous", or before that "Aboriginal", or before that, "Aborigines" or "Natives"...
The "euphemism treadmill" is the problem. And the smugness of the media elites enforcing this shit. Not the wording itself, obviously...
It’s an extremely contentious issue that would take many words to unpack, but let’s just say… That’s what the woke retards claim.
Not-coincidentally Mujulitju (that place) also has the highest rates of kiddy diddling and petrol sniffing in the country, and is off limits to whitey…
Holy fuck, goodbye to the wildlife that live there. I remember what the fucking injuns did as soon as they let them loose with weapons in Algonquin. They slaughtered deer by the truckload, and probably popped every pred they saw, too, on their way.
See what I mean when as far as the Left is concerned, green space is nothing but reserved space for niggers, and they only see wildlife as food for niggers, and don't care about animals in and of themselves?
National Parks weren't supposed to be about humans!
This is a disaster for the free species. I hear John Muir's ghost wailing already.
I doubt that this is going to be as much of a problem as you think it is.
One of two things is going to happen:
The Aboriginals are going to immediately convert it into a commercial opportunity and sell the land to farmers, miners, foresters, anything that can develop the land commercially through extraction or they'll go the classic route of building casinos and hotels on it as a tourist trap.
They will do nothing with it, except maybe settle on it, it will become less attractive and less valuable, it will generate little income, and will be of no great loss to the rest of society, resulting in the Abbos proceeding with #1
This is wildly common in land-redistribution schemes. It's why Socialist African countries had to not only re-distribute land multiple times, but had to criminalize selling it back to whites.
More than likely the answer is just going to be #1. The politicians are giving the land, for free, to tribes that are either their voters, or are paying them. They will get kick-backs and favors for that. The land will then be sold to the developers they are also getting kickbacks from.
Here's a bright side for you: the state now owns less property. This means it can go back into private hands and can't be used as a weapon by the government to print more money on ridiculous schemes.
Now the state can 'buy it back' and use it for things that were illegal beforehand. There is an old neighborhood in Orlando that gets all sorts of historical revisionism about it. Really, investors ran out of space to make skyscrapers for no one and want to tear down these neighborhoods. The owners don't want to give it up, so the investors want the government to step in and buy out the land by force.
They know that Aboriginals contribute little to nothing and this is their way of leveling the field, by making them massive property holders and real estate moguls.
I find this topic particularly bleak and frustrating...
The closure of Ayers Rock, and everything that happened around that (and yes, I did climb, a month before it closed) was probably my first real big "red/blackpill", when I realised that this was a war, and that my "friends" would throw me under the bus to win woke points...
So this is... Pretty mortifying. Especially knowing that we are powerless. Voting won't work. Protesting won't work (it's very easy to just call any protestors "bigots" and dismiss anything they have to say). Essentially, this is, short of a major change in momentum/politic will, a foregone conclusion. They don't care what we, the voters, think. They don't care what disparate Aboriginal groups think. They only care what the loud, white "Abbo" activists in the cities think, and scream about.
This is, in essence, a true culture war, and "We, the people", are losing... :-(
It does seem to be about sending a message: this is not your home any more.
Yep. It's felt like that for a while, too, ngl...
Watching the local (public broadcaster) news last night - during the weather, all geographical place names are no longer listed in English. They're in the Aboriginal conlang they made up, for this place, instead...
Initially it was "English name (Aboriginal Name)". Then it became "English Name/Aboriginal Name". Then the order reversed. Now the English name is not even mentioned...
This happened with Ayers Rock, too. It's one massive step in the erasure of the dominant culture and language. So much so that the mountain I grew up around is now no longer ever mentioned by its English name, in the media, despite Joe Public never really calling it the name they made up less than a decade ago (with the exclusion of the very woke, naturally)...
See also: "Native" >>"Aborigine" >> "Aboriginal" >> "Indigenous >> (in the past year, straight out of Canada) "First Nations", and now, if you don't use the current term, you're a "racist"... FML...
It's the media, man. It's always the fucking media...
And morally weak bureaucrats, politicians and academics, of course...
One more anecdote:
Symphony Orchestra concerts. Floyd happened in America, of course. Yet, since concerts resumed post-Coof, the local orchestra, at the start of each concert, conducts a fucking struggle session...
Every concert, a member of the orchestra is forced to stand up, and not just "acknowledge country", but also blab on about "white guilt", "sovereignty never ceded", "feel bad, whiteys", etc... And then the audience is made to clap, and if they don't, they are politely "told off" by the ushers...
And then they play 1 hour+ of European (mostly) classical music, with zero Aboriginal people on stage (usually), and very likely less than 10 in the whole audience, ever...
It got so bad that I stopped going. Yet my family laps it right up. Family friends fall over themselves to applaud its "brilliance". It is very much like a cult...
Supposedly, this started because the concerts were being livestreamed, but it is very apparent that they have made it a habitual, performative thing, since that time. And everyone just plays along, or is asked to leave. It is absolutely fucked.
And then in the last year woke musicians (not necessarily classical ones) including people I went to school with, started referring to the city, the city, by its conlang name, which has only existed for... Less than five years. Insane...
So yeah. It's so much worse than you might even have thought. It is literally like a slow, slow takeover, and inversion of the society I was born into, smh...
Are you doing badthink about retiring the old badthink names, comrade? That's doubleplus ungood!
More seriously ... Did the aboriginal inhabitants build the city? If not, isn't their appropriation of the name just as bad imposing "Ayer's Rock" on something they themselves named?
Oh, silly me, I forgot whitey is untermensch and must be removed in the name of kindness and fairness.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!
Yeah, you get what's going on here, just as I do...
Hell, if they didn't have utter, bald-faced hypocrisy, they would have nothing. Which is, perhaps, where I began to smell something... Rather fishy, about the whole thing...
It's remarkably similar to what happened in parts of (now) Poland and the Czech Republic/"Czechia", after the fall of the Nazis and the expulsion of the Germans... Also "Kaliningrad"/Königsberg, of course...
Also India and China, post-whitey. India, I guess, is the most similar, given that places like Calcutta, Goa and Bombay were founded by le evil huwhite males...
However the difference here is that it is whitey doing it, at the behest of these minority activists. In a place that is like... 95%+ white. To appease less than 2% (!!) of the local population...
That... "Self-own", if you will, is remarkable. You don't really see that very much, outside the Anglosphere, lol.
NZ, Canada, Greenland and Alaska are worse than current Aus, though I think only two of those have actually started "renaming" cities, so in that sense, I guess we are "behind" the eight ball...
shivers I really don't see this ending well. For anyone...
I'm fairly sure those white activists simply do not regard themselves as the same population as you, and that, left unchecked, this will manifest itself in far worse ways than merely renaming places.
Re: the concerts. ha. At least Midnight Oil walked the walk with having a one-armed, digiri-doo player with them on tour (fundraising thing for drought-stricken farmers, that got delayed a day or two because of a flood on Nullarbor Plain. I went to this, wish I had a video. 1995.) They even let him do a solo, it was pretty awesome. Why don't these struggle session guys do that?
Happening in the States. It used to be Mt. McKinnley, tallest mountain in the US. Now its Denali.
Yep, I know.
I ain’t calling it Denali, either…
See also: Mount Cook in NZ.
They would have done Kosciusko (here), but for the fact that it didn’t have an Aboriginal name, and they are yet to invent one, lol…
Oh, and the fact that it is named after a Pole. I’m sure that helps. After all, we know wokies *occasionally claim Poles as “POC”…
"First Nations" isn't new. It's been used for 10 years in the West. Probably less time in the East, though.
In Australia it is…
It doesn’t have cultural crowd here. It was not a thing, two years ago…
Canada ≠ Australia, dude…
We had our own words.
I misread. Thought you meant First Nations was a new term in Canada.
Just seen this.
Fair enough.
It's just another "North Americanism", for us...
And look, I wouldn't care, if they didn't insist that it is now the ONLY term that can be used. Vis-à-vis the previous terms "Indigenous", or before that "Aboriginal", or before that, "Aborigines" or "Natives"...
The "euphemism treadmill" is the problem. And the smugness of the media elites enforcing this shit. Not the wording itself, obviously...
I bet all the wildlife around Ayers is already consoooomed.
The Wikipedia article seems to suggest that all the Ayers Rock closures happened because of 300 Abos living nearby.
Yeah, that’s the claim…
It’s an extremely contentious issue that would take many words to unpack, but let’s just say… That’s what the woke retards claim.
Not-coincidentally Mujulitju (that place) also has the highest rates of kiddy diddling and petrol sniffing in the country, and is off limits to whitey…
Funny that.
Holy fuck, goodbye to the wildlife that live there. I remember what the fucking injuns did as soon as they let them loose with weapons in Algonquin. They slaughtered deer by the truckload, and probably popped every pred they saw, too, on their way.
See what I mean when as far as the Left is concerned, green space is nothing but reserved space for niggers, and they only see wildlife as food for niggers, and don't care about animals in and of themselves?
National Parks weren't supposed to be about humans!
This is a disaster for the free species. I hear John Muir's ghost wailing already.
I doubt that this is going to be as much of a problem as you think it is.
One of two things is going to happen:
The Aboriginals are going to immediately convert it into a commercial opportunity and sell the land to farmers, miners, foresters, anything that can develop the land commercially through extraction or they'll go the classic route of building casinos and hotels on it as a tourist trap.
They will do nothing with it, except maybe settle on it, it will become less attractive and less valuable, it will generate little income, and will be of no great loss to the rest of society, resulting in the Abbos proceeding with #1
This is wildly common in land-redistribution schemes. It's why Socialist African countries had to not only re-distribute land multiple times, but had to criminalize selling it back to whites.
More than likely the answer is just going to be #1. The politicians are giving the land, for free, to tribes that are either their voters, or are paying them. They will get kick-backs and favors for that. The land will then be sold to the developers they are also getting kickbacks from.
Here's a bright side for you: the state now owns less property. This means it can go back into private hands and can't be used as a weapon by the government to print more money on ridiculous schemes.
Now the state can 'buy it back' and use it for things that were illegal beforehand. There is an old neighborhood in Orlando that gets all sorts of historical revisionism about it. Really, investors ran out of space to make skyscrapers for no one and want to tear down these neighborhoods. The owners don't want to give it up, so the investors want the government to step in and buy out the land by force.
Yeah, that's a good point.
They know that Aboriginals contribute little to nothing and this is their way of leveling the field, by making them massive property holders and real estate moguls.