Honestly it's always flirted with this kind of naked cliqueishness, since the days of aristocratic academies. But at some point we crossed to the wrong side of the threshold of enough men with the integrity to hold to their principles over following consensus, even if it meant taking a personal career hit.
Commercialization, big money, funding, university administration. Its all rooted at an obsession to money & influence rather than passion in your field.
Its why I can't stand "influencers" and the moment some interesting internet talking persona become famous, they turn bot. Hardly any worth listening to after they start hitting 10k-100k-1M follower milestones.
Even Rogan for that matter is only able to maintain his walking the line kinda stance because he is insulated by all his wealth. Like Musk. The rest of us idiots are in the trenches getting dowsed in feces and drug paraphernalia, that we are forced to call neu-meatloaf, with an order of insect on the side.
The scientific establishment has never had a good track record.
The eugenicists of the last century, the atrocities (human experimentation) committed by Japanese and German scientists during WW2, global warming alarm-ism, modern gain-of-function research leading to a global pandemic, the butchery of children in the name of "trans-rights"... just to name a few. There's a reason why the stereotype of the "mad scientist" has been around for as long as it has.
The "hard" sciences are for the most part fine because they are readily testable, reproducible and rigorously follow the scientific method, but the "soft" sciences are much more open to interpretation and manipulation and therefore ride the coattails of credibility that the hard sciences have earned.
Oh, "science" always seems to agree to condemn the madness ... two or three decades after the fact. I'm sure if our civilization survives this bad idea, they will do exactly the same.
If anything, the history of science is notable for the formation of cosy little cliques that do their best to exclude everybody else until the bleeding edge of research has progressed so far that the dominant clique is simply unable to maintain control.
Seriously, from astronomy to atomic theory, it's one large group grimly clinging on to control until the entire community is forced to concede that the academic emperor has no clothes.
I'd wager there are many scientists -- maybe even the majority -- that think what is going on in the scientific community is insane but are just too scared to say or do anything about it.
The Left operates like the mafia -- or more accurately, an authoritarian government -- using fear, intimidation and lies to control people. By trying to personally destroy anyone who disagrees with them, they create a culture of coerced obedience, and it only takes a few radicals to create this culture. In reality the number of insane radicals on the Left is minuscule but their behavior so viscous and their voice so loud, they've successfully fooled people into believing they're far more powerful than they are, which ends up being a self-fulfilling prophesy in a way.
Eugenics is exactly the kind of science that will be suppressed by Nature. And the eugenicists were right. The technology that makes us comfortable prevents the natural cleaning of the gene pool. People condemned the solutions that eugenicists came up with on a moral basis but never suggested anything morally acceptable to replace them. The attitude is "well, promoting good genes requires steps we find repugnant, therefore let it happen." It would be interesting if they had this attitude towards climate change.
Very scary. Honestly never thought I’d see the day when science loses its mind like this
Honestly it's always flirted with this kind of naked cliqueishness, since the days of aristocratic academies. But at some point we crossed to the wrong side of the threshold of enough men with the integrity to hold to their principles over following consensus, even if it meant taking a personal career hit.
Commercialization, big money, funding, university administration. Its all rooted at an obsession to money & influence rather than passion in your field.
Its why I can't stand "influencers" and the moment some interesting internet talking persona become famous, they turn bot. Hardly any worth listening to after they start hitting 10k-100k-1M follower milestones.
Even Rogan for that matter is only able to maintain his walking the line kinda stance because he is insulated by all his wealth. Like Musk. The rest of us idiots are in the trenches getting dowsed in feces and drug paraphernalia, that we are forced to call neu-meatloaf, with an order of insect on the side.
The scientific establishment has never had a good track record.
The eugenicists of the last century, the atrocities (human experimentation) committed by Japanese and German scientists during WW2, global warming alarm-ism, modern gain-of-function research leading to a global pandemic, the butchery of children in the name of "trans-rights"... just to name a few. There's a reason why the stereotype of the "mad scientist" has been around for as long as it has.
The "hard" sciences are for the most part fine because they are readily testable, reproducible and rigorously follow the scientific method, but the "soft" sciences are much more open to interpretation and manipulation and therefore ride the coattails of credibility that the hard sciences have earned.
I can agree with that. I guess I expected science to shut down the morons saying that men can be women
Oh, "science" always seems to agree to condemn the madness ... two or three decades after the fact. I'm sure if our civilization survives this bad idea, they will do exactly the same.
If anything, the history of science is notable for the formation of cosy little cliques that do their best to exclude everybody else until the bleeding edge of research has progressed so far that the dominant clique is simply unable to maintain control.
Seriously, from astronomy to atomic theory, it's one large group grimly clinging on to control until the entire community is forced to concede that the academic emperor has no clothes.
I get that. I guess due to the idea that a man claiming to be a woman is obviously delusional. That should be a slam dunk like 2 plus 2 is 4.
I'd wager there are many scientists -- maybe even the majority -- that think what is going on in the scientific community is insane but are just too scared to say or do anything about it.
The Left operates like the mafia -- or more accurately, an authoritarian government -- using fear, intimidation and lies to control people. By trying to personally destroy anyone who disagrees with them, they create a culture of coerced obedience, and it only takes a few radicals to create this culture. In reality the number of insane radicals on the Left is minuscule but their behavior so viscous and their voice so loud, they've successfully fooled people into believing they're far more powerful than they are, which ends up being a self-fulfilling prophesy in a way.
Eugenics is exactly the kind of science that will be suppressed by Nature. And the eugenicists were right. The technology that makes us comfortable prevents the natural cleaning of the gene pool. People condemned the solutions that eugenicists came up with on a moral basis but never suggested anything morally acceptable to replace them. The attitude is "well, promoting good genes requires steps we find repugnant, therefore let it happen." It would be interesting if they had this attitude towards climate change.