China on Wednesday published its first white paper on Taiwan since Xi Jinping came to power, refusing to rule out force in its bid for unification and blaming the island’s “independence seeking” ruling party for deepening the dispute with Beijing. The paper, which stated China “will tolerate no foreign interference in Taiwan,” comes days after China held unprecedented military drills around the island in the wake of a visit to Taipei by US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Buckle up boys, it's tankie time. https://archive.ph/rRDyb
Resolving the Taiwan question and realizing China's complete reunification is a shared aspiration of all the sons and daughters of the Chinese nation. It is indispensable for the realization of China's rejuvenation. It is also a historic mission of the Communist Party of China (CPC). The CPC, the Chinese government, and the Chinese people have striven for decades to achieve this goal.
Nobody cares except communist hard liners and their simps. Also as a fyi, the CCP recently decided that everyone should call it the "CPC" now instead of the traditional CCP, so if you see anyone online using the "CPC" label, they are outing themselves as a tankie. The CCP's name in chinese is 中國共產黨 which breaks down to 中國 = Zhōngguó = China & 共產 = gòng chǎn = communist & 黨 = dǎng = party. So literally "China Communist Party".
The Chinese government has published two previous white papers on Taiwan. One was The Taiwan Question and Reunification of China in August 1993, and the other was The One-China Principle and the Taiwan Issue in February 2000. These two white papers provided a comprehensive and systematic elaboration of the basic principles and policies regarding the resolution of the Taiwan question. This new white paper is being released to reiterate the fact that Taiwan is part of China, to demonstrate the resolve of the CPC and the Chinese people and their commitment to national reunification, and to emphasize the position and policies of the CPC and the Chinese government in the new era.
In other words, to threaten and posture.
I. Taiwan Is Part of China - This Is an Indisputable Fact. Taiwan has belonged to China since ancient times. This statement has a sound basis in history and jurisprudence.
In reality, Imperial China basically ignored Taiwan most of the time, and Taiwan ended up as a pirate haven. [The Japanese eventually invaded Taiwan to retaliate over some Taiwanese headhunters.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_invasion_of_Taiwan_(1874)) Later, Japan made Taiwan a colony, which it remained until the end of WW2 when the Nationalists took over.
We are one China, and Taiwan is part of China. This is an indisputable fact supported by history and the law. Taiwan has never been a state; its status as part of China is unalterable. Any attempt to distort these facts and dispute or deny the one-China principle will end in failure.
So this is pure delusion, just like Putin's little rant right before he invaded Ukraine, and is stated for the same purpose (to rationalize military aggression against a sovereign state).
First, the one-China principle must be upheld, and no individual or force should be allowed to separate Taiwan from China.
They're already separate, and the "One China" policy is a fraud meant to placate the CCP.
Second, it is imperative to strive for the wellbeing of all Chinese people, including those in Taiwan, and to realize the aspirations of all Chinese people for a better life.
By bombing them and starving them into submission with a blockade? lol.
Fourth, it is necessary to have the courage and skill to fight against any force that attempts to undermine China's sovereignty and territorial integrity or stands in the way of its reunification. Fifth, extensive unity and solidarity must be upheld to mobilize all factors to fight against any force that would divide the country, and pool strengths to advance national reunification.
Just threats and the CCP hard liners wanting to full mobilize for any war. Good luck with that.
We maintain that after peaceful reunification, Taiwan may continue its current social system and enjoy a high degree of autonomy in accordance with the law. The two social systems will develop side by side for a long time to come.
Everyone saw how that worked out for Hong Kong. We all know it's a fraud now.
Separatism will plunge Taiwan into the abyss and bring nothing but disaster to the island.
Annnnnnd there's the threats.
Use of force would be the last resort taken under compelling circumstances. We will only be forced to take drastic measures to respond to the provocation of separatist elements or external forces should they ever cross our red lines.
Like Nancy Pelosi visiting Taiwan.
The US should abide by the one-China principle, deal with Taiwan-related issues in a prudent and proper manner, stand by its previous commitments, and stop supporting Taiwan separatists.
"separatists".
"In a biannual update to its surveys on core political attitudes in Taiwan, National Chengchi University's Election Study Center (ESC) found only 1.3 percent of respondents wanted unification with mainland China "as soon as possible,""
Anyway basically the white paper was almost entirely empty platitudes and the same old bullshit.
China isn't in a position they can even attempt an invasion, people keep saying "look at Ukraine, look at Ukraine " I get that but there's two major differences:
Taiwan has manufacturing that is HEAVILY sort after
Taiwan is an island, surrounded by an ocean
So if China bombs Taiwan it risks losing all that manufacturing they could use as leverage against other countries
A amphibious assault would fail as they don't have the landing craft, Naval support required to achieve that, not to mention they start, Taiwan immediately uses those giant howitzers they have on an island nearby to bombard their bases, cities, anything that moves etc.
So this isn't a Hong Kong as they have firepower, distance, natural barriers and leverage in not bombing them, but it just provides time. So what they need is more military supplies, even more firepower and defenses and allied forces (a fully armed, rebuilt Japanese military).
Just as a FYI, while this is still somewhat true at the moment, the CCP has invested massively into amphibious assault craft in recent years, and can now successfully land about 30-50k troops in an invasion, along with hundreds of tanks.
Example of new capability is a new class of 40,000 ton amphib carriers, with 3 of them coming online in 2021 and 2022 alone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_075_landing_helicopter_dock
They are also continuing to build a 25,000 ton class amphib ship, with 8 online now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_071_amphibious_transport_dock
They also have about 30 heavy Type 72 tank landing ships.
Finally, they have hundreds of smaller landing craft, still larger than the landing craft used on D-day.
Mass production of D-Day style smaller landing craft would be child's play for China. They could make thousands in a year. Right now they are focusing on building out the high end amphib support ships that take years to build, so that they can "sprint" and pump out the smaller ships very quickly when they are close to invading. They also have an enormous fleet of large civilian ferries they could press into service.
All that said, obviously they wouldn't win if they tried to attack now. The bigger threat is that they seize Taiwan's outlying islands like Kinmen, Matsu, and Pratas, and try to blockade Taiwan.
All this will be a war almost entirely of naval and air power. One of the big impacts of Ukraine is that it showed the world that SAMs were actually highly effective. A lot of people thought SAMs were trash because they never stopped the US, but the US is a special case.
I'm just a dude but amphibious landings are very difficult, and haven't really been done since the 2nd world war, and off the top of my head the last "successful" landing was the Korean war. Every other amphibious invasion has been a failure or a victory in shambles since.
Logistically landing an army and getting them ready to fight is a challenge that it's not guaranteed that the Chinese army and Navy could pull off at all. Even if they were landing in friendly territory.
First of all:
The Taiwan straight is 180 kilometres. That's a long way of open ocean that cannot, in any way, be hidden. There will be absolutely no element of surprise what so ever.
Secondly, the ships that carry men and material across the 180 km straight, aren't the ones that will be pulling up to the beach. They will have to transfer the entire army from a large boat to many smaller boats. Refer back to point 1 on the ludicrousness of this situation when you consider the prepared defenses.
I don't really have to go any further because those elements alone will take a truly massive discrepancy in force between the two, as well as impreccable levels of competencies amongst the Chinese forces from top to bottom.
Take D-Day, the air landings were strewn basically randomly, no command and control whatsoever but they were able to be effective because units took the initiative largely of their own accord. Do you think chinese corporals and sergeants are going to do the same?
There's also another side to this, China's military has size on it's side but completely unproven. They've been used mostly against their own citizens that don't fight back. Will they be able to hold their nerve when they see all their buddies being blown up
The west's military, although being subverted, still has veterans who have served under fire whether in the middle east or even wars like the Falklands. These veterans are critical for militaries as they keep the younger less experienced soldiers in line when under fire. China don't have any of them.
In fact it's worse than that. China's been fighting Indian regulars along the Tibetan border in a slow-boil border dispute, and the PLA is coming off badly in these engagements.
Granted, India's not a slouch - they'd have been ploughed under by Pakistan long since if they were - but not opposition that someone as good as China thinks they are should struggle with.
Right, it doesn't stop us because we still have technological and manufacturing superiority. China's trying to catch up but a lot but it's still Chinese made shit. Reliability is going to be a huge issue for them.
South Korea has a conservative government and Japan has a nationalist prime minister. I know they're not exactly allies with Taiwan but they also see China as an existential threat.
I think this is the major problem with your assessment. You're looking at the possibility of China using the economy as a weapon. You're not looking at Taiwan as a competitor to China. If Taiwan goes under, China has all the economic leverage within it's own borders.
Shelling the microprocessor factories might be the best possible opening gambit for China. By destroying the economic premise for getting involved, China's use of bribery and influence might be very effective at keeping countries out.
Actually that's a double edged sword, as that relies on a very pragmatic view that if the economic reasons for defending Taiwan is gone, China can bribe or scare other countries from getting involved.
A lot of Asian countries could see that as a 'crossing the rubicon' moment that they effectively attack an independent country and decide while they have their hands full with attacking Taiwan, to hit them as hard as possible or they're next. And China haven't really helped any case to suggest they wouldn't try to seize more territory if they manage to take Taiwan.
I think the issue is that although it is a Crossing-The-Rubicon moment, that's a hell of a crossing if the US refuses to involve itself. I feel like the other Asian countries, as I said elsewhere, would want to test and see if Taiwan could actually hold their own long enough, so that they could exploit China's vulnerability.
They would blockade instead of invade.
I mean, it's the CCP. You don't think they'd be psychotic enough to nuke someone to "justify" the invasion?
Surprised they havnt subverted taiwan and made taiwan super faggy and tranny.