Asmon is popular because he's charismatic and funny
That's what everybody who defends their favorite streamers say, even for the titty ones. It is interesting you took "guy who got carried to a high level and now talks like his opinions matter" and went for "superstar player." Because despite being a well known bad player, his rabid fanbase still treat his opinions with incredible worth and it has massive effects on the community.
if his stream talk is at all accurate to life, lives a very inexpensive / cheap / poor life.
You don't need to cite his stream talk. We can literally see his lifestyle. With the rotting teeth, cockroaches on the wall, and old food littered everywhere. He doesn't live that way out of principle, he does because he is lazy (his defense) white trash who just happened into money. The South is filled with guys like him, they just aren't on camera.
You referred to him in your first sentence as "An incredibly bad player". My point is that I don't think anyone watches him for his playing skills and to learn how to play WoW.
I have opinions about many parts of WoW and I haven't raided in years. I don't think that invalidates my opinions.
Lazy white trash. Yeah, maybe. As a guy who family was, not very long ago, poor white trash, I'm sympathetic. It can be hard to overcome your roots.
I'm skeptical of almost anything I see or hear on a stream.
My point is that I don't think anyone watches him for his playing skills and to learn how to play WoW.
They still loudly echo his opinions across the internet and forums. He is one of the largest streamers whatsoever, and the largest WoW guy by far. Everything he says has influence and weight, and he has done nothing to curb that. Classic was near unbearable at launch by his sycophants disrupting servers and spamming every channel/forum they could.
I haven't raided seriously since MoP either, and I can still easily spot things wrong in what he says. Its fine to be wrong, but you should at least try to not be blatantly so. Especially if you are gonna do things like go on and be interviewed as a "expert" for channels like Josh Hayes.
As a guy who family was, not very long ago, poor white trash, I'm sympathetic. It can be hard to overcome your roots.
Yeah same. Mine was so white trash I couldn't have streamed because of the violence in the background and the dogs losing their mind all hours of the day. I even had the same soda addiction problem. Yet, despite making fractions of what he does I still have nice enough teeth and a house that isn't infested.
You don't need money to throw shit away or clean. He doesn't have 2-3 retail jobs with strict schedules preventing him from doing so like most white trash either.
I'm skeptical of almost anything I see or hear on a stream.
The two options are he actually lives like that, which is disgusting or he is an incredible actor making an entire hoarder house set every stream and wearing fake teeth the entire time. Which would be even more pathetic, as well as nearly impossible.
Its okay to admit he isn't a great person or role model, nobody looks to him for that either.
All fair points. I would never claim that any streamer is a great person or a role model...but mostly because I think every streamer or youtuber (or actor), is playing a character. Maybe they are great people, but they are almost certainly not what we see on screen.
I'm not a big stream viewer, but there are not many Warcraft streamers or creators I consistenly enjoying listening to. Asmon is just like ... shittalking entertainment. If I had to speculate, I would think that he reminds many people of an extreme version of what they were like as teenagers.
One of my best friends in highschool was seriously one of the smartest guys I've ever met. Hilarious guy, did standup, etc. His dad left when he was a baby, his mom was an alcoholic, his older sister left home at age 16. His room was always full of fastfood wrappers, and the Wendy's crew knew him by name, just like Asmon. Motherfucker got a full ride to a good college and flunked out during his first semester (stopped going to classes), and is now ~40 and still working restaurant/bar jobs. Had "streaming" even been imaginable back then, he would've been a star.
And most are. Athene was literally "bad player acting like his shit don't stink" well over a decade ago, so we know that type of character. We also had Totalbiscuit, a literal failure of a player, pulling the same angle but he was being 100% serious and was laughed out of the community. Asmon is much more TB than Athene in terms of faking versus genuine opinions. He certainly plays it up, but without the theatrics its still him speaking.
Ignoring literally everything about him as a person as well, the literal view of his house behind him is so disgusting it should disqualify him from ever having opinions on anything. You can't have teeth fall out of your mouth live on stream and just keep going like that's acceptable.
Hard to overcome a bad childhood.
It is. But its unfair to any of us who did the legwork to escape those hells to simply let someone else make infinite excuses and keep going. Its even more unfair to them to enable them to ruin their own life by letting them think its acceptable. Especially ones that are dripping with lucky breaks that could easily walk them out.
That's what everybody who defends their favorite streamers say, even for the titty ones. It is interesting you took "guy who got carried to a high level and now talks like his opinions matter" and went for "superstar player." Because despite being a well known bad player, his rabid fanbase still treat his opinions with incredible worth and it has massive effects on the community.
You don't need to cite his stream talk. We can literally see his lifestyle. With the rotting teeth, cockroaches on the wall, and old food littered everywhere. He doesn't live that way out of principle, he does because he is lazy (his defense) white trash who just happened into money. The South is filled with guys like him, they just aren't on camera.
You referred to him in your first sentence as "An incredibly bad player". My point is that I don't think anyone watches him for his playing skills and to learn how to play WoW.
I have opinions about many parts of WoW and I haven't raided in years. I don't think that invalidates my opinions.
Lazy white trash. Yeah, maybe. As a guy who family was, not very long ago, poor white trash, I'm sympathetic. It can be hard to overcome your roots.
I'm skeptical of almost anything I see or hear on a stream.
They still loudly echo his opinions across the internet and forums. He is one of the largest streamers whatsoever, and the largest WoW guy by far. Everything he says has influence and weight, and he has done nothing to curb that. Classic was near unbearable at launch by his sycophants disrupting servers and spamming every channel/forum they could.
I haven't raided seriously since MoP either, and I can still easily spot things wrong in what he says. Its fine to be wrong, but you should at least try to not be blatantly so. Especially if you are gonna do things like go on and be interviewed as a "expert" for channels like Josh Hayes.
Yeah same. Mine was so white trash I couldn't have streamed because of the violence in the background and the dogs losing their mind all hours of the day. I even had the same soda addiction problem. Yet, despite making fractions of what he does I still have nice enough teeth and a house that isn't infested.
You don't need money to throw shit away or clean. He doesn't have 2-3 retail jobs with strict schedules preventing him from doing so like most white trash either.
The two options are he actually lives like that, which is disgusting or he is an incredible actor making an entire hoarder house set every stream and wearing fake teeth the entire time. Which would be even more pathetic, as well as nearly impossible.
Its okay to admit he isn't a great person or role model, nobody looks to him for that either.
All fair points. I would never claim that any streamer is a great person or a role model...but mostly because I think every streamer or youtuber (or actor), is playing a character. Maybe they are great people, but they are almost certainly not what we see on screen.
I'm not a big stream viewer, but there are not many Warcraft streamers or creators I consistenly enjoying listening to. Asmon is just like ... shittalking entertainment. If I had to speculate, I would think that he reminds many people of an extreme version of what they were like as teenagers.
One of my best friends in highschool was seriously one of the smartest guys I've ever met. Hilarious guy, did standup, etc. His dad left when he was a baby, his mom was an alcoholic, his older sister left home at age 16. His room was always full of fastfood wrappers, and the Wendy's crew knew him by name, just like Asmon. Motherfucker got a full ride to a good college and flunked out during his first semester (stopped going to classes), and is now ~40 and still working restaurant/bar jobs. Had "streaming" even been imaginable back then, he would've been a star.
Hard to overcome a bad childhood.
And most are. Athene was literally "bad player acting like his shit don't stink" well over a decade ago, so we know that type of character. We also had Totalbiscuit, a literal failure of a player, pulling the same angle but he was being 100% serious and was laughed out of the community. Asmon is much more TB than Athene in terms of faking versus genuine opinions. He certainly plays it up, but without the theatrics its still him speaking.
Ignoring literally everything about him as a person as well, the literal view of his house behind him is so disgusting it should disqualify him from ever having opinions on anything. You can't have teeth fall out of your mouth live on stream and just keep going like that's acceptable.
It is. But its unfair to any of us who did the legwork to escape those hells to simply let someone else make infinite excuses and keep going. Its even more unfair to them to enable them to ruin their own life by letting them think its acceptable. Especially ones that are dripping with lucky breaks that could easily walk them out.