it is almost as if a community that wants the best for itself could and should put together money to prop up people and ideas that seem promising for said community
i know you are a retarded faggot (two exception words i understand i can use) so you think this literally means everyone should get money all the time from everyone, but it does not mean that
Realistically, it would be much harder to get loans if there was no gain for the lender.
Low interest loans entered into by mutual consent are reasonable. Lending to someone incurs a risk and the opportunity cost of not having that money while it's being borrowed.
It's wonderful when people band together to do selfless things, but quid pro quo isn't inherently immoral. Mutual interest makes the world go round, same as it ever has.
For one thing, you can run something like a credit union and have interest without it being usury. Ultimately, no one is profiting off the lending. The money that borrowers pay in is paid out to savers. For instance, the guy who is working and paying off a house is funding the expenses of a retiree. This is no sin.
You can say the difference is sophistry, but there are a couple of key points here. One: No fractional reserve. No inherent inflation just because you do lending. No funny money. Two: no government. The government no longer dictates how much a bank can lend. No Fed depositing checks in banks drawn on nothing. To me, the real sin is the divorcing of currency from value and from labor. This leads inexorably to massive inequality.
Higher than yours.
And loans shouldn't exist, in their present form anyway.
it is almost as if a community that wants the best for itself could and should put together money to prop up people and ideas that seem promising for said community
i know you are a retarded faggot (two exception words i understand i can use) so you think this literally means everyone should get money all the time from everyone, but it does not mean that
see? you assume a premise of dishonesty to begin with - the people and ideas will always be fake, always be liars, always be manipulative
only a thief fears thieves
This says so much about your moral framework.
Realistically, it would be much harder to get loans if there was no gain for the lender.
Low interest loans entered into by mutual consent are reasonable. Lending to someone incurs a risk and the opportunity cost of not having that money while it's being borrowed.
It's wonderful when people band together to do selfless things, but quid pro quo isn't inherently immoral. Mutual interest makes the world go round, same as it ever has.
For one thing, you can run something like a credit union and have interest without it being usury. Ultimately, no one is profiting off the lending. The money that borrowers pay in is paid out to savers. For instance, the guy who is working and paying off a house is funding the expenses of a retiree. This is no sin.
You can say the difference is sophistry, but there are a couple of key points here. One: No fractional reserve. No inherent inflation just because you do lending. No funny money. Two: no government. The government no longer dictates how much a bank can lend. No Fed depositing checks in banks drawn on nothing. To me, the real sin is the divorcing of currency from value and from labor. This leads inexorably to massive inequality.
I loaned out $700 to my friend the other week and I don't expect to ever get it back.
Doing what's right isn't the same thing as doing what is self serving.
The fact that you can't even imagine that scenario or that decision making process marks you as morally deficient.