96% of US NOAA Weather Stations Sited Wrong, Inflate Temperature Record
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The climate has been altered towards warming for over a 100,000 years. It's in a warming cycle from the last true ice age. It has not reached the zenith and will not for thousands of years. The younger Dryas, the year without a summer, the dark ages freeze, these are all flukes caused by temporary conditions, and of them, the younger dryas lasted a long time because it was caused by a massive comet and its pieces striking/exploding over the earth. It takes hundreds of years for our atmosphere to fully cycle, pollution is fucking horrible, but it is not the only cause for our rising temperatures and it is not even a leading cause.
The destruction of so much green life has caused a massive problem, and we need to address it. We are having an effect, but it's poisoning our environment, not changing the climate. We have yet to reach even the highs and lows of what experienced 500 years ago. It might happen, it might not. The thing is, what we are experiencing is not the climate, it's the destruction of our habitat that mitigates all these fucking changes.
I don't understand how you can possibly believe these things simultaneously.
We are having a massive effect on our environment, not even necessarily just poisoning it, but terraforming it. We change the course of rivers at will, we drain aquifers, we devastate state-sized forests and replace them with millions of acres of farm land we introduce new species, and we alter the chemical balance of the atmosphere. We introduced chemicals that actually depleted the ozone layer for a few decades just because of what chemicals we used in air conditioners and refrigerators. Hell, we may have made ourselves retarded with lead poisoning.
But effecting our climate? That's too far?
It's like you're looking at Meteor Crater, AZ, and explaining how this was all very likely caused by erosion.
Not from the data I've seen. We're well above the average temperatures from 500 years ago.
Think man, why wouldn't the climate change from the destruction of a habitat?
Because the climate still exists, it's not just a one part thing. Look at the dustbowl. The climate did not change, the weather patterns remained the same, it was just the plants that had evolved in it that were removed. Flash floods still effect Las Vegas, once a green oasis at the meeting of several creeks that periodically dried the fuck out.
Temperatures will fluctuate. It does not matter. The earth is in a warming trend and has been for 100,000 fucking years! It's not even reached the zenith, it won't for a long time. The waters will rise whether we stop existing tomorrow or not.
500 years ago, North America experienced droughts we hadn't seen in centuries before. It nearly wiped out the early James Town settlement. You can't blame that on industrialization.
Rivers change course, lands dry out, animals die. Are accelerating that? Certainly. Are we to blame for climate change? In the long run, we haven't been active enough to know. We may not be able to alter it for the better or worse.
It sure as shit does.
And that's why. When farms get displaced and the Mississippi takes out a neighborhood, it's a hell of a thing. Especially if it doesn't go back for many life times, if ever.
It's not a climactic change, and it was only a temporary result of over-plowing, not having any way of mitigating wind erosion, and a drought.
Yeah, that's why I don't.