Where are people getting such ideas? I see the most hideous and fat guys with normal-looking women. And yet online I see "top 20% of guys this, top 20% that".
It is a rare couple where the man is more attractive than the women, at least here, and I can speak with some authority on that.
I had a 6 year serious relationship with a woman outside my league. How I got the first date was confidence and persistence. I asked her out 3 times over 2 months. She never gave me a hard "no" or "not interested". She continued to approach me after each try and we enjoyed talking to each other.
Top 20% doesn't only mean looks. It's a success metric. Being attractive is by far the most important, but height, money, clothes (indicator for money), personality, the opinions of other women, etc. all factor into the weighting somewhat. And everybody settles eventually, changing that top 20 to 50 and up. Regarding your specific example I don't think we can compare random people walking down the street to women actively playing the dating game at a singles mixer. (especially upper-middle-class single Black women who hold notoriously high standards for men)
Clearly it is not! It's as if people assume that women are just like men. They really aren't.
And everybody settles eventually, changing that top 20 to 50 and up.
Then that 20% nonsense ends up meaning nothing at all. They try to get the best they can, when they invariably fail, they settle.
Regarding your specific example I don't think we can compare random people walking down the street to women actively playing the dating game at a singles mixer
Those are people who, perhaps for a reason, have not found a guy.
Where are people getting such ideas? I see the most hideous and fat guys with normal-looking women. And yet online I see "top 20% of guys this, top 20% that".
It is a rare couple where the man is more attractive than the women, at least here, and I can speak with some authority on that.
All of those women are mid as fuck and disguise it with loads of makeup and art techniques. They're not hot. you're just easily deceived
I'm impressed with recent technology if make-up can make you not fat.
Are you sure they aren't just skinny-fat? Most girls don't work out at all, or just do some mild cardio at best.
That's not entirely true.
I had a 6 year serious relationship with a woman outside my league. How I got the first date was confidence and persistence. I asked her out 3 times over 2 months. She never gave me a hard "no" or "not interested". She continued to approach me after each try and we enjoyed talking to each other.
Top 20% doesn't only mean looks. It's a success metric. Being attractive is by far the most important, but height, money, clothes (indicator for money), personality, the opinions of other women, etc. all factor into the weighting somewhat. And everybody settles eventually, changing that top 20 to 50 and up. Regarding your specific example I don't think we can compare random people walking down the street to women actively playing the dating game at a singles mixer. (especially upper-middle-class single Black women who hold notoriously high standards for men)
lol, really?
Clearly it is not! It's as if people assume that women are just like men. They really aren't.
Then that 20% nonsense ends up meaning nothing at all. They try to get the best they can, when they invariably fail, they settle.
Those are people who, perhaps for a reason, have not found a guy.
I really doubt that.
Is it that different in the US, or do you simply not go outside?
No, most average guys do get women in North America too. Heck, the "top 20%" in North America is just gay anyway.
It's just that here, the people who rail on "women" aren't average. They're mostly bottom 5%.
Even if they are, surely they can just... look around and see that what they claim is not true.
They're paying for it.