Note that this bill hasn't passed or survived constituional challenges that are all but certain to happen if it does.
The bill aims to block more than abortion: Provisions would outlaw providing information over the internet or phone about how to obtain an abortion. It would also make it illegal to host a website or “[provide] an internet service” with information that is “reasonably likely to be used for an abortion” and directed at pregnant people in the state.
Legal scholars say the proposal is likely a harbinger of other state measures, which may restrict communication and speech as they seek to curtail abortion. The June proposal, S. 1373, is modeled off a blueprint created by the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC), an antiabortion group, and designed to be replicated by lawmakers across the country.
“These are not going to be one-offs,” said Michele Goodwin, the director of the Center for Biotechnology and Global Health Policy at the University of California at Irvine Law School. “These are going to be laws that spread like wildfire through states that have shown hostility to abortion.”
Accelerate
But some tech lobbyists say the industry needs to be proactive and prepared to fight bills with communications restrictions that may have complicated ramifications for companies.
The tech lobby isn't fighting for free speech. They are fighting for their own place as a censor.
Democrats are already considering new data privacy proposals to protect reproductive health data and other digital trails that could be used to prosecute people seeking abortion.
MFW Dems end up 4D chessed into protecting the privavy dissidents
She’s anticipating that tech companies and their trade associations will be ramping up their lobbying efforts at the state level, especially early next year, when many states resume their legislative calendars.
Of course they will. Perhaps we can offer a trade. They can keep abortion info available in exchange for broader free speech protections.
What are the other options that have a meaningful path to victory? Right now the only institution right of Mao is some state legislatures and governorships. We aren't we leveraging every tool we have available to reinforce our positions?
You need to stop thinking in terms of abstract principles that the other side pretends to honor but always ignores whenever it suits them. Start thinking of "does this hurt the people who are against me, does this help the people who are for me?"
In this case their it attacks their side so it is good. Nobody from our side would put up a website saying "abortion is great, here is how you get one" so it wont affect us.
If you say "well they can use this to ban our websites" they already do but they say its because they "spread hate". Well I say information on how to get abortions "spreads hate" against babies and if you don't agree why are you so hateful?
You're talking about the case that invented gun control. Cruickshank v. United States which declared that the 1st and 2nd Amendment didn't apply to the states.
"No, I'm sorry, you don't have due process rights. This is Colorado."
You really think that's a good idea, do you? You actually think that allowing states to disregard the basic tenets of liberty: like the right to protest, the right to dissent, the right to assemble in groups larger than 3, the right practice your religion, the right to jury trial, the right to due process, the right to defend yourself, should simply be revoked so that no state will tolerate human freedom as each state aligns with once censorious zealotry or another.
What am I saying, of course you do. You're stupid enough to think you'll be in charge and the cops won't kick your door in and shoot you in the head for "engaging in counter-revolutionary, anti-social, terrorism" by having posted here. Can't wait to see how confused you would be in your own future when Minnesota declares the official state religion to be Sunni Islam. "How could this have happened?"
Giving Leftists every possible keystone position of power to subvert, infiltrate, and kill you with is exactly how you get yourself into a mass grave.
The left can't build anything because all they do is seize power and squander it until they've killed everyone. Trying to feed into that by giving them ground to make mass graves, and then giving them an avenue of attack into your own system is not a solution, it's a guaranteed loss.
If you give a Leftist a keystone position of power, they will wear a skinsuit to get into that position of power and use it against you.
There are already laws against speech the government doesn't like. It called the "civil rights act".
from title 7:
It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer, labor organization, employment agency, or joint labor-management committee controlling apprenticeship or other training or retraining, including on-the-job training programs, to print or publish or cause to be printed or published any notice or advertisement relating to employment by such an employer or membership in or any classification or referral for employment by such a labor organization, or relating to any classification or referral for employment by such an employment agency, or relating to admission to, or employment in, any program established to provide apprenticeship or other training by such a joint labor-management committee, indicating any preference, limitation, specification, or discrimination, based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin
If that is "constitutional" why wouldn't a ban on abortion sites be?
Probably. It's the escalation of conflict between corporations and red states that I find most intriguing here. It's also interesting that conservatives are beginning to embrace weaponizing the government more.
Note that this bill hasn't passed or survived constituional challenges that are all but certain to happen if it does.
Accelerate
The tech lobby isn't fighting for free speech. They are fighting for their own place as a censor.
MFW Dems end up 4D chessed into protecting the privavy dissidents
Of course they will. Perhaps we can offer a trade. They can keep abortion info available in exchange for broader free speech protections.
This goes too far. Why the FUCK would conservative politicians take a cue from the left?
What are the other options that have a meaningful path to victory? Right now the only institution right of Mao is some state legislatures and governorships. We aren't we leveraging every tool we have available to reinforce our positions?
You need to stop thinking in terms of abstract principles that the other side pretends to honor but always ignores whenever it suits them. Start thinking of "does this hurt the people who are against me, does this help the people who are for me?"
In this case their it attacks their side so it is good. Nobody from our side would put up a website saying "abortion is great, here is how you get one" so it wont affect us.
If you say "well they can use this to ban our websites" they already do but they say its because they "spread hate". Well I say information on how to get abortions "spreads hate" against babies and if you don't agree why are you so hateful?
Y u jus poke de bebe wita steek? U go gen. Wit de hada poke.
good
more states need to pass "unconstitutional" laws until the whole doctrine of incorporated amendments is negated
there is a tiny advantage on the supreme court now, state legislatures need to press it as hard as possible
Are you fucking retarded?
You're talking about the case that invented gun control. Cruickshank v. United States which declared that the 1st and 2nd Amendment didn't apply to the states.
"No, I'm sorry, you don't have due process rights. This is Colorado."
You really think that's a good idea, do you? You actually think that allowing states to disregard the basic tenets of liberty: like the right to protest, the right to dissent, the right to assemble in groups larger than 3, the right practice your religion, the right to jury trial, the right to due process, the right to defend yourself, should simply be revoked so that no state will tolerate human freedom as each state aligns with once censorious zealotry or another.
What am I saying, of course you do. You're stupid enough to think you'll be in charge and the cops won't kick your door in and shoot you in the head for "engaging in counter-revolutionary, anti-social, terrorism" by having posted here. Can't wait to see how confused you would be in your own future when Minnesota declares the official state religion to be Sunni Islam. "How could this have happened?"
fuck colorado, move to a real state
the constitution doesn't stop the commies from doing whatever they want, about time we start playing to win
you don't get any prize for being the most principled corpse in the mass grave
Giving Leftists every possible keystone position of power to subvert, infiltrate, and kill you with is exactly how you get yourself into a mass grave.
The left can't build anything because all they do is seize power and squander it until they've killed everyone. Trying to feed into that by giving them ground to make mass graves, and then giving them an avenue of attack into your own system is not a solution, it's a guaranteed loss.
If you give a Leftist a keystone position of power, they will wear a skinsuit to get into that position of power and use it against you.
There are already laws against speech the government doesn't like. It called the "civil rights act".
from title 7:
If that is "constitutional" why wouldn't a ban on abortion sites be?
Won’t that be struck down? Wouldn’t that be considered overreach?
Probably. It's the escalation of conflict between corporations and red states that I find most intriguing here. It's also interesting that conservatives are beginning to embrace weaponizing the government more.
States can't regulate the internet for the most part. Lack of jurisdiction.