Seriously, what's the argument for porn being speech and expression? What is the message it's trying to convey?
Edit: Guys, I'm asking if it's speech/expression and, if so, how. Most of the comments in support of it aren't answering the question, just showing their support for free speech and expression, in general. Only one guy has made a case for it, comparing it to car shows and art. And, even though I have reservations about labeling it as art, I appreciate that he's making a case for it and not just side-stepping the issue.
So are depictions of murder and battery and shoplifting and vandalism. Yet its only a crime to possess pictures of one specific crime and not every crime, why is that?
They will do it anyway. Do you think the neomarxists have any empathy for us? We are standing in the way of their utopia, their heaven on earth that is "just around the corner" once they get rid of us. Anything harm hey commit against us has been per-justified by their delusional belief system.
I can't because I don't produce porn. You can cry about edge cases all you want but the existence of edge cases doesn't change the general case. If few "mostly harmless" perverts being occasionally scooped up is the price to keep degeneracy out of the public sphere then to me that is a very reasonable trade.
Because sexual crimes are considered more heinous than others. If you want that idea to change, or us to ban holding onto criminal evidence in general I'd be willing to listen to either argument. But that wasn't yours, its just you moving the goalpost because I didn't give you the gotcha.
Then don't make it easier for them by playing right into their hands. Because this won't make actual difference, as we know very obviously they, the government and those in power won't be effected by these changes in the slightest. So you aren't saving anyone, just letting those you hate have more control of you.
It says a lot that you are so blinded by your own little moral superiority you think the only people who can get scooped up are "still perverts" and not regular people who accidentally went afoul of laws written intentionally to catch them.
Ironic, because the previous paragraph you were complaining about them being willing to do any harm possible to us but now you think this new system will only catch bad people.
This isn't a "new system". This country used to have obscenity laws that were enforced against only the most egregious of cases. And there was a gentlemens agreements where businesses catering to prurient interests stayed away from main roads and generally the "good" parts of town.
That is what "live and let live" means. That normal people can go about their lives without thinking about trannies and buttsex and whores because it isn't everywhere they look the moment they leave the house or turn on a tv.
And yet if you bring that system back it will only let gays and trannies be portrayed in public and everything else is suppressed horribly. That's been my point all along. They will abuse it while dodging it entirely.