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posted 3 years ago by folx 3 years ago by folx +51 / -0
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– deleted 41 points 3 years ago +41 / -0
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– TentElephant 37 points 3 years ago +37 / -0

Polls are fake and gay.

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– novanleon 32 points 3 years ago +32 / -0

Brilliant clip.

A famous conservative once said that polls are for shaping public opinion, not measuring it. I think he was absolutely correct. The pollsters can use all sorts of methods to get the result they want, and people have a bias towards joining the majority opinion, so all you need to do is show people a poll that says the majority agree with X and people are more inclined to agree with X.

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– TentElephant 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

It also makes people feel isolated and alone. People watching TV that are against current thing see a poll that 88% of people are for current thing and they feel too overwhelmed to speak out, even to friends and family.

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– FutaCumDiet 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

I remember someone saying that "Propagnda isn't for making you think you're wrong, but alone".

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– TakenusernameA 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Social media platform is a similar concept but weaponized even further via massive bot farms that parrot THE MESSAGE and shame anyone who dares to speak up, creating a culture of compliance.

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– novanleon 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

100%

There may be no better way to suppress rebellion than to destroy the morale of a population.

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– Eugene_Beastly 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

They also don't matter. Most people are retarded or brainwashed or both. We don't need to seek anybody's approval. Especially not in this gay country.

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– freespeechsquid 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

'& her doctor' automatically implies some kind of medical necessity (edit: AND implies a sensible, rational decision making process involving an authority figure)

Having no middle ground between 'all or most cases legal' and 'all or most cases illegal' means a lot of moderates who prefer limited abortion had to choose 'all or most cases legal'

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

'& her doctor' automatically implies some kind of medical necessity (edit: AND implies a sensible, rational decision making process involving an authority figure)

They are invoking authority but not heeding it. MOST doctors, even or especially the ones that are qualified, would refuse to perform an abortion. They want to doctor shop and then claim doctor approval. Which you can do for almost anything. Doesn't make it right.

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– freespeechsquid 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Doesn't make it right.

Yeah, I'm saying they're manipulating the polls (as always) by asking leading questions. They ask 'shouldn't it be between a woman and her doctor' (which implies a medical need and wise, expert oversight) to make it sound reasonable, then they use the poll numbers to advance their real position, which is 'a woman should able to get an abortion whenever she wants'

If they'd been honest and asked 'shouldn't a woman be able to get a abortion whenever she wants?', or maybe 'shouldn't abortions be conveniently accessible?' the numbers would be different. But now the talking point is '75% of people disagree with the supreme court's decision, they're going against the will of the overwhelming majority'

Dishonesty.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Oh, yeah, I agree about that. I answer a lot of polls I guess because I answer random calls to my work number that gets forwarded to my cell phone (it's rarely business, but one can hope). They have an annoying way of asking questions.

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– APDSmith 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

That's why they didn't ;)

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– Gizortnik 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The vast majority of people, when actually pushed to specify where they would accept an abortion, would make it illegal after 3 months. Something like 80% of the population opposes the actual results of abortion "on demand".

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Also, there are few countries where it is legal after 12 weeks -- precisely the line Mississippi was asking for. Not that popular makes right. I'm just reinforcing the argument that abortion as performed, for instance and until recently, in California is not very popular in the rest of the world, either.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The line that California is taking isn't popular with anyone, even in the west.

The line that Tennessee is taking would be considered morally abhorrent to the rest of the world, because they'd rather see the women and men arrested.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

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