I'm not opposed to dangerous, violent, out-of-control people being kept under lock and key, but ...
I lived in Mendocino County in the 1970's when all of the California state mental hospitals were shut down including the rural Mendocino State Hospital. They just opened all the doors and the front gate and told everyone to leave. That was what they did.
People just went out and wandered around. People who had been locked up for years and decades began to inhabit the local landscape with no place to go, no idea what to do, and no way to support themselves.
I knew some of those people because I worked for public transit at the time and I talked to them. My favorite customer was a former state hospital detainee who had been committed in the 1950's and had no idea why. There's no telling what had happened to him while committed for decades but he became my friend and was a sweet and gentle man I saw every day.
There was never public accounting for what these 'hospitals' did to/for their inmates. After MSH emptied it was left abandoned and unlocked, I used to ride my bike out there and peek into the buildings ... grim does not begin to describe the interior chamber of some of those buildings :/
Mendocino State Hospital has also been implicated in the MKUltra program and was staffed by many members of Jim Jones' Peoples Temple. It is not possible to get into those state hospital records as they were sealed for 75 years at the time of closure.
We have to be very careful about not repeating the same mistakes we made in the past under the banner of Lock Em Up because they're crazy.
Not only that but do you really want the commie infested mental health industry deciding who should be locked up? Look up Soviet abuses of psychiatry to get an idea of what that would look like. The APA has already declared "toxic masculinity" a psychological disorder, and don't forget the "gaming addiction" crap pushed by feminists and their propaganda outlets at Kotaku and Polygon. There need to be a lot of protections in place if we go down this path.
You say that like they don't already do precisely that. They're still busily trying to persecute anyone who wouldn't take Fauci's poison. The left will attempt to persecute you because that's what they do, and they won't stop until they're all dead.
Thing is, in a circumstance in which we can finally start locking up the insane again, we've probably already won a civil conflict and purged the left.
Not only that but do you really want the commie infested mental health industry deciding who should be locked up?
That's a huge problem, yeah. As damaging as all the mentally unwell people are to society, the answer is still probably less tyranny, not more. I'd love a simple solution, but I don't really see that happening, especially in the current framework. None of the institutions can be trusted to help us, so the best bet is to try to force them to butt out completely, and force them into irrelevance. Certainly not to give them even more power over us.
Mental hospitals have and will always be a necessary evil. Because they are so easily corrupted and become places of horrors, yet when kept from getting too awful they are miles better for both society and the mentally ill than simply leaving them to their own devices.
The answer to the abuses and madness that ran rampant through the 1900s wasn't just throwing up our hands and giving up entirely, but that's what we did and now we are filling society with people who are clearly in need of something but we have nothing we can do for them.
I'm not opposed to dangerous, violent, out-of-control people being kept under lock and key, but ...
I lived in Mendocino County in the 1970's when all of the California state mental hospitals were shut down including the rural Mendocino State Hospital. They just opened all the doors and the front gate and told everyone to leave. That was what they did.
People just went out and wandered around. People who had been locked up for years and decades began to inhabit the local landscape with no place to go, no idea what to do, and no way to support themselves.
I knew some of those people because I worked for public transit at the time and I talked to them. My favorite customer was a former state hospital detainee who had been committed in the 1950's and had no idea why. There's no telling what had happened to him while committed for decades but he became my friend and was a sweet and gentle man I saw every day.
There was never public accounting for what these 'hospitals' did to/for their inmates. After MSH emptied it was left abandoned and unlocked, I used to ride my bike out there and peek into the buildings ... grim does not begin to describe the interior chamber of some of those buildings :/
Mendocino State Hospital has also been implicated in the MKUltra program and was staffed by many members of Jim Jones' Peoples Temple. It is not possible to get into those state hospital records as they were sealed for 75 years at the time of closure.
We have to be very careful about not repeating the same mistakes we made in the past under the banner of Lock Em Up because they're crazy.
Not only that but do you really want the commie infested mental health industry deciding who should be locked up? Look up Soviet abuses of psychiatry to get an idea of what that would look like. The APA has already declared "toxic masculinity" a psychological disorder, and don't forget the "gaming addiction" crap pushed by feminists and their propaganda outlets at Kotaku and Polygon. There need to be a lot of protections in place if we go down this path.
You say that like they don't already do precisely that. They're still busily trying to persecute anyone who wouldn't take Fauci's poison. The left will attempt to persecute you because that's what they do, and they won't stop until they're all dead.
Thing is, in a circumstance in which we can finally start locking up the insane again, we've probably already won a civil conflict and purged the left.
That's a huge problem, yeah. As damaging as all the mentally unwell people are to society, the answer is still probably less tyranny, not more. I'd love a simple solution, but I don't really see that happening, especially in the current framework. None of the institutions can be trusted to help us, so the best bet is to try to force them to butt out completely, and force them into irrelevance. Certainly not to give them even more power over us.
Mental hospitals have and will always be a necessary evil. Because they are so easily corrupted and become places of horrors, yet when kept from getting too awful they are miles better for both society and the mentally ill than simply leaving them to their own devices.
The answer to the abuses and madness that ran rampant through the 1900s wasn't just throwing up our hands and giving up entirely, but that's what we did and now we are filling society with people who are clearly in need of something but we have nothing we can do for them.
It's said that if you look carefully, you can see them still riding the bus to this very day...
Now that all the loonies are in open society, we're sure doing better.
Same attitude that now results in criminals being let to go, as long as their skin is a shade of the New Moon.