It was a great abuse of the FBI that gave fuel to democrats and the media but was any of it illegal? Was anyone accused of any crime in connection to it?
Why aren't Republicans doing more to highlight all that happened? If it was reversed the media and Democrats would have used it in all of their campaigns.
To me it looks likes the Democrats with the help of the media and the FBI pulled off an incredible abuse of power without any consequence.
CONTROLLED OPPOSITION
Knowingly fabricating and peddling false evidence in order to conduct a massive spying campaign on a United States citizen and everyone who has ever shaken hands with him?
Of course it's illegal. It was, barring Aaron Burr himself, one of the greatest crimes ever committed on our soil.
Leftists don't care. They are comfortable with their hypocrisy. That's precisely what makes them leftists, because they are evil.
Was it illegal to spy, they can claim incompetence, they had a "leak" of sorts?
Of course it's illegal to conduct surveillance on someone on false pretenses. We have a whole Amendment for that.
You can make the argument that they did not have probable cause for the spying but that in itself would just lead to incompetence and not malice. Without having some smoking gun to show that there was a conspiracy then they get away with it.
This is why I would at least want Republicans to run on how Democrats have politicized the FBI and were helped by the media. Legally they will most likely get away with it but it should not be without any consequence.
There were several smoking guns related to the Carter Paige FISA warrants signed by Christopher Wray and James Comey.
Do you think it will lead to anything?
Hahahahahahahaha
Of course it won't. You're asking the enemy to investigate themselves.
You have to understand that the other side is acting in bad faith.
in a few years we'll march on dc again
Republicans completely support politicizing the FBI. They would use it against any potential radical candidate (not that Trump is even close to being radical).
The Fourth Amendment does not talk about malice.
That is particularly true in the American system today.
Prosecutorial offices (DA and AG) are run by politicians. They are either political appointees or have to win election in their district. They have arbitrary discretion on whether to file charges against a suspect, and what charges to file. This means they have huge influence on what crimes are even investigated in the first place. (police don't want to waste time) The DA can also make law-abiding citizens' life a living hell by running them through the legal system (process is the punishment), knowing that nothing will happen to them as long as they don't go too far over the line. So basically what is considered law is dictated by local politics of the day. -> If your friendly community leftists want to lock you up for months over a lawful protest, there's nothing you can do about it. Vote em out? Lol. -> If they want to punish their political enemies (you) through anarcho-tyranny by letting criminals run free? Literally nothing prevents that. We have also seen how corruptible the prosecutorial offices are when influenced by foreign funding. There is NO way out of this while keeping this system and current demographics trends.
Speaking of demographic trends, there is no such thing as universal justice meted out by human judges. That's a myth all civilized societies tell themselves to encourage law-abiding order. What we interpret as justice is a logical consistence in rulings that aligns with previous rulings (precedence) and our shared cultural values. There are sometimes extreme or odd decisions in one direction or another, but generally the judge will rule in a way that his professional peers and others in his community will approve of. That only works in homogeneous societies with shared traditions. Leftism and mass immigration destroy the foundations of the justice myth. Once you inject diversity into the system and have judges from all kinds of backgrounds and ideologies that may not match those of others in the nation, people start noticing that courts aren't "just" at all. At first they think it's one or two crazy judges, but eventually nothing makes sense and you end up with competing ruling philosophies and totally inconsistent decisions held together by the flimsiest nod to traditions.
Justice is impossible in pluralistic societies. The only form it can take is authoritarianism where everyone is forced to agree that whatever the ruler rules is just. Force has kept empires together for centuries so it can certainly work if that's the path you want to take. Alternatives are removing diversity and making it clear that the super-majority group runs the country, balkanizing into smaller nations and completely reforming the legal system in your new nation, or setting up a kind of parallel or private law system that takes the State out of legal decisions entirely.
Massively illegal. Michael Susmann, the Clinton lawyer who worked for Perkins Coie, fed fake intel to the FBI and got the ball rolling on the Russia investigation. Susmann is now on trial for making false statements to the FBI as part of the Durham probe.
This is a massive ball of wax but here are just a few big highlights off the top of my head:
Trump campaign was spied on BEFORE Trump was elected as well as AFTER. That means during the race the intel agencies were snooping around in his emails/phone calls. Trump tower's phones were indeed tapped.
They also had access to the internet data in both Trump tower and THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE. They used this access to plant phony data connecting Trump to the Russian bank Alfa bank.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-really-was-spied-on-2016-clinton-campaign-john-durham-court-filing-11644878973
According to text messages between disgraced FBI agent Peter Strzock and FBI lawyer Lisa Page (they were having an affair) the white house wanted updates on the Russia investigation, implying it was ordered and monitored by Obama.
Strzock was also the FBI agent who headed up the Clinton email investigation (he even questioned Hillary himself) AND was the agent who entraped Michael Flynn. What a coincidence this guy is all over the key investigations...
Cater Page, an advisor to the Trump campaign, was the entry point for intel to spy on the campaign. Page had no ties to Russia or Russian intelligence.
Rod Rosenstein, the former deputy attorney general, signed off on a number of FISA warrants (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) to spy on Carter Page and claims he didn't read the requests, he just signed them without realizing what they were. FISA is the secret government court that approves wire-tapping warrants, typically to spy on suspected terrorists and the like.
George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor to the campaign, was set up by John Brennan's CIA with regards to Russiagate. Basically a CIA asset told him "the Russians have Hillary's emails". He then told another CIA asset that he had heard a rumor the Russians had Hillary's lost emails. That was the invented pretext to push the investigation along.
Kevin Clinesmith, a lawyer for the FBI, altered an email saying that Carter Page had never previously been a source for the CIA. In reality, he had worked with the CIA before. This was done to secure FISA warrant. Clinesmith only got a slap on the wrist.
The infamous Steele dossier, a proven fake, was originally said to not be the major piece of evidence behind the Trump/Russia investigation, that it was only "one piece of a larger corpus of intelligence". That was complete bullshit and it was revealed the FISA warrants were applied for ONLY with the Steele dossier as the key evidence.
The Russian lawyer who met with Donald Trump Jr. and claimed she had Hillary's lost emails actually spent their meeting talking about making it easier for Americans to adopt Russian children. She was also flown into the US specifically for that meeting on a special diplomatic visa that would have needed to be approved by Obama's state department. Just another intel asset sent in to try and fabricate evidence that Trump had ties to Russia.
So yes, this is the biggest scandal in American political history, larger than Watergate or the Pentagon Papers. Why aren't republicans doing anything about it? Because most of them are comfortable being controlled opposition for the democrats, letting them ruin everything and then going back to their constitutients to pump them for more donations to "fight back against these crazy liberals". It was a nice racket till Trump came along and broke all their toys.
First, you need to realize that the FBI generally exists to abuse people, not to save them or provide the american people a service. If they provided a service, they would be a business.
They're dumb cucks who are just progressives driving the speed limit. They have the same goals as leftists, just two decades slower. The extremely pro-MAGA people like MTG seem decent as far as I've looked into them, but you have like 5 or 10 of them compared to the entire party of uniparty useful idiots.
if russia can't donate to repubs why can israel donate to both parties