In reality bosses want their workers back and most workers would rather stay at home. Pure self interest is the deciding factor, and it's divided by class, not sex and race.
Workers would rather stay home because it's more comfortable and lets them turn their wasted time into useful time. (10 minutes until the meeting starts? Put in a load of laundry)
Supervisors and bosses would rather have you at the physical location so they can control your productivity and crack down on wasted time better.
That's pretty much all there is to it, invoking gender and race politics here is sheer delusion.
But these articles always feel far-removed and alien to me, because neither myself nor anyone I know does office work. We all do machining. The constant assumptions that the country runs on office work feels like a fantasy of white collar urbanites, and their complaints over office politics feel like the histrionics of a rich woman who can't see outside her sphere.
When you work an actual, valuable job you don't want people paid to do their house chores and you don't want to be one of those people. There's morale in knowing that everybody is there at least pretending to work, and knowing how easy it is for at-home workers to get paid to jerk off destroys morale.
So I think it is by race. There's more white people (and asians) doing real work where they actually care about doing a good job and about their coworkers not being parasites.
Note the actual survey asked whether the respondent wanted to work at the office. If they asked whether everybody should have to I'm sure it would be even more obvious what's going on.
Some of us also just hate the isolation of working from home. It doesn't make for a good team dynamic. It's the same phenomenon of people fooling themselves into thinking that their 500 friends on Facebook constitute a social life when it's been six years since they last went out to do something in real life with an actual friend. Digital interaction is not synonymous with in person interaction and some of us have the capacity to recognize that difference and the importance of it.
Sure. I didn't mean to imply it's only reason, but I also think it's not totally unrelated to your point. I feel that when people are doing actual, real work they have a better attitude and are more fun to be around.
Most people who fell in love with remote work are those with shit jobs working for shitty people. Anyone who has a good job working with good people isn't going to have such a fierce aversion to returning to the office.
When you work an actual, valuable job you don't want people paid to do their house chores and you don't want to be one of those people. There's morale in knowing that everybody is there at least pretending to work, and knowing how easy it is for at-home workers to get paid to jerk off destroys morale.
As something of an asshole who hates goldbrickers even though it doesn't always directly affect me, it bothered me pre-pandemic when I'd see people online posting things and saying "oh I'm at work right now and I have nothing to do but spend hours posting on Reddit." And I can't help but see these types of people as the majority of those working at home and living the dream as they do even less work without any kind of supervision. They've finally came into their own and when their jobs become redundant, I bet they can't wait to transition over to UBI so they can continue their lifestyle.
Yeah, these people are parasites. There are people that do office work that actually do work and put in crazy hours. Then their are diversity hires that are their just to fill a quota. They don't do anything, and if they do they just make more problems.
It's best if they just stay home and "work". They aren't needed. They aren't wanted. They are just their to satisfy HR and avoid lawsuits from the liberal hegemony.
But these articles always feel far-removed and alien to me, because neither myself nor anyone I know does office work. We all do machining. The constant assumptions that the country runs on office work feels like a fantasy of white collar urbanites, and their complaints over office politics feel like the hystrionics of a rich woman who can't see outside her sphere.
For the past two years I've felt like there are only dozens of us who actually had to get up and go to work consistently during the whole entire thing. I feel totally out of the loop and this as retarded a question as it gets but seriously, did people really "quarantine" and stay home for weeks/months at a time working remotely and never even have to leave their house? Or is this one of those things where when I go online I'm entering the world of "knowledge workers" where most of them do things capable of remote work and living that lifestyle?
In reality bosses want their workers back and most workers would rather stay at home. Pure self interest is the deciding factor, and it's divided by class, not sex and race.
Workers would rather stay home because it's more comfortable and lets them turn their wasted time into useful time. (10 minutes until the meeting starts? Put in a load of laundry) Supervisors and bosses would rather have you at the physical location so they can control your productivity and crack down on wasted time better.
That's pretty much all there is to it, invoking gender and race politics here is sheer delusion.
But these articles always feel far-removed and alien to me, because neither myself nor anyone I know does office work. We all do machining. The constant assumptions that the country runs on office work feels like a fantasy of white collar urbanites, and their complaints over office politics feel like the histrionics of a rich woman who can't see outside her sphere.
When you work an actual, valuable job you don't want people paid to do their house chores and you don't want to be one of those people. There's morale in knowing that everybody is there at least pretending to work, and knowing how easy it is for at-home workers to get paid to jerk off destroys morale.
So I think it is by race. There's more white people (and asians) doing real work where they actually care about doing a good job and about their coworkers not being parasites.
Note the actual survey asked whether the respondent wanted to work at the office. If they asked whether everybody should have to I'm sure it would be even more obvious what's going on.
Some of us also just hate the isolation of working from home. It doesn't make for a good team dynamic. It's the same phenomenon of people fooling themselves into thinking that their 500 friends on Facebook constitute a social life when it's been six years since they last went out to do something in real life with an actual friend. Digital interaction is not synonymous with in person interaction and some of us have the capacity to recognize that difference and the importance of it.
Sure. I didn't mean to imply it's only reason, but I also think it's not totally unrelated to your point. I feel that when people are doing actual, real work they have a better attitude and are more fun to be around.
Correct.
Most people who fell in love with remote work are those with shit jobs working for shitty people. Anyone who has a good job working with good people isn't going to have such a fierce aversion to returning to the office.
As something of an asshole who hates goldbrickers even though it doesn't always directly affect me, it bothered me pre-pandemic when I'd see people online posting things and saying "oh I'm at work right now and I have nothing to do but spend hours posting on Reddit." And I can't help but see these types of people as the majority of those working at home and living the dream as they do even less work without any kind of supervision. They've finally came into their own and when their jobs become redundant, I bet they can't wait to transition over to UBI so they can continue their lifestyle.
Yeah, these people are parasites. There are people that do office work that actually do work and put in crazy hours. Then their are diversity hires that are their just to fill a quota. They don't do anything, and if they do they just make more problems.
It's best if they just stay home and "work". They aren't needed. They aren't wanted. They are just their to satisfy HR and avoid lawsuits from the liberal hegemony.
For the past two years I've felt like there are only dozens of us who actually had to get up and go to work consistently during the whole entire thing. I feel totally out of the loop and this as retarded a question as it gets but seriously, did people really "quarantine" and stay home for weeks/months at a time working remotely and never even have to leave their house? Or is this one of those things where when I go online I'm entering the world of "knowledge workers" where most of them do things capable of remote work and living that lifestyle?
I'm still working from home. I never quarantined but I'll take the perk.
I disagree completely, this whole narrative they've cooked up is their tactic describing everything backwards, of how it is.
What most workers want is the office to return to a point of sanity. Most people do not want to work in social isolation cubes.
It sounds like what you're saying is a conclusion from the carefully manipulated gossip network.
The people are good at manipulating these these neyworks are the people who most want no office.