Russia has been spreading wild claims of American biological warfare labs in Ukraine for several years. Those claims were eagerly boosted by Chinese state media, which mixed them with Beijing’s deranged conspiracy theory about the Wuhan coronavirus originating in a U.S. Army lab in Maryland.
On Thursday, the same day Russian leader Vladimir Putin ordered the attack on Ukraine, Russian propaganda outlets circulated a map purportedly showing dozens of secret American labs across Ukraine, with 11 of them already targeted and destroyed by Russian missiles.
International media organizations debunked the Russian claims and noted Russia has been running disinformation campaigns accusing the U.S. of manufacturing chemical and biological weapons in Ukraine for years. The Russian tale was fabricated out of an agreement between the U.S. and Ukraine to modernize Ukrainian virology labs, some of which are dedicated to defense against weaponized pathogens.
I have a feeling we are dealing with Russia/China first brigade here, and not America first.
Imagine believing the propaganda the Russians and Chinese sell.
Whether it's true or not is not ultimately the point.
The problem is that it's totally believable. Accusing the US of secretly developing bioweapons should be the equivalent of accusing Mr. Rogers of diddling kids -- a complete joke that nobody would entertain for even a second.
Instead everybody is like, "it sounds Faucian but it's coming from Russian, so who knows". Even if you completely believe it's Russian propaganda, it still highlights the West's lack of credibility and no moral standing because you're dismissing it because it came from Russia not because it's ludicrous.
Russia has been spreading wild claims of American biological warfare labs
Not journalism.
Beijing’s deranged conspiracy theory
Not journalism.
International media organizations debunked the Russian claims
Not journalism.
The Russian tale was fabricated
Not journalism.
an agreement between the U.S. and Ukraine to modernize Ukrainian virology labs, some of which are dedicated to defense against weaponized pathogens
100% Grade A bullshit, coated with some turd polish to make it shiny and distracting.
I don't even know if the Russian propaganda is true or not (they fake enough "evidence" to make everything they say suspect) but if you can't see what's going on here, at Breitbart and many other western media operations, I don't know how to explain it. You basically already parroted this rhetoric in your other reply to me about disease research below, so I think you have some kind of barrier to understanding here. (again not speaking to which of us is telling the truth or not, but the reasoning process)
And if we were being "America First" we would mosey on out of all these international engagements and treaties. Not our problem, and we'd gain more from a friendly economic relationship with Russia. We just wouldn't want them to dominate us like China.
, at Breitbart and many other western media operations, I don't know how to explain it.
I find them slightly more credible than Russia. Especially Breitbart, which I find it more credible than CNN.
We just wouldn't want them to dominate us like China.
Then explain the amount of pro-China sentiment that began flooding here recently.
I wish Russia would have joined us against China. I find this war pointless and unnecessary and just a power grab by a failing dictator. But defending Russia here despite the blatant information pointing to their failings (massive censorship, massive lies, massive violations of many rules and laws) is just retarded.
To make a point, I only shared the videos about the airplane crashes and helicopter being shot down after I read it from a more credible source. And not as soon as it came out from the Ukrainian government.
And just so you know... The books I have on my shelf is from my biology degree. I had classes about lab safety over and over. So I think I am entitled to know a thing or two about this.
I have a feeling we are dealing with Russia/China first brigade here, and not America first.
Imagine believing the propaganda the Russians and Chinese sell.
Whether it's true or not is not ultimately the point.
The problem is that it's totally believable. Accusing the US of secretly developing bioweapons should be the equivalent of accusing Mr. Rogers of diddling kids -- a complete joke that nobody would entertain for even a second.
Instead everybody is like, "it sounds Faucian but it's coming from Russian, so who knows". Even if you completely believe it's Russian propaganda, it still highlights the West's lack of credibility and no moral standing because you're dismissing it because it came from Russia not because it's ludicrous.
Would you believe if America said the same thing about Russia? Would you dismiss it because it came from America or was it because it is ludicrous?
Yes both Russia and America can easily be believed to have secretly created bioweapons.
That's the point actually, we have no moral high ground on this issue and we should.
Not journalism.
Not journalism.
Not journalism.
Not journalism.
100% Grade A bullshit, coated with some turd polish to make it shiny and distracting.
I don't even know if the Russian propaganda is true or not (they fake enough "evidence" to make everything they say suspect) but if you can't see what's going on here, at Breitbart and many other western media operations, I don't know how to explain it. You basically already parroted this rhetoric in your other reply to me about disease research below, so I think you have some kind of barrier to understanding here. (again not speaking to which of us is telling the truth or not, but the reasoning process)
And if we were being "America First" we would mosey on out of all these international engagements and treaties. Not our problem, and we'd gain more from a friendly economic relationship with Russia. We just wouldn't want them to dominate us like China.
Glad you shared evidence that this is all BS.
I find them slightly more credible than Russia. Especially Breitbart, which I find it more credible than CNN.
Then explain the amount of pro-China sentiment that began flooding here recently.
I wish Russia would have joined us against China. I find this war pointless and unnecessary and just a power grab by a failing dictator. But defending Russia here despite the blatant information pointing to their failings (massive censorship, massive lies, massive violations of many rules and laws) is just retarded.
To make a point, I only shared the videos about the airplane crashes and helicopter being shot down after I read it from a more credible source. And not as soon as it came out from the Ukrainian government.
And just so you know... The books I have on my shelf is from my biology degree. I had classes about lab safety over and over. So I think I am entitled to know a thing or two about this.