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Arcane is pretty damn good.
posted 4 years ago by BlightBane 4 years ago by BlightBane +24 / -0

Never played or cared for LoL, so I don't know if a fan would have an issue with anything, but this was a damn good show, and had a really great villain.

Didn't catch any woke shit either.

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– BlightBane [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I have zero knowledge of the game so I wouldn't catch race, sex, or sexuality swaps. The two women in question are obviously attracted to each other, but it does not go beyond one of them stroking the face of the other. In my opinion that in and of itself - without knowing how things are in the game - is not woke.

I always had some tolerance for woke elements, and don't feel like I have been more accepting recently, than I have always been.

I do agree that I would probably not notice if someone has brainwashed me, but if my level of acceptance is what it always has been, then either that has happened a long time ago, or it has not happened.

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– throwawayaccount2037 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I have zero knowledge of the game so I wouldn't catch race, sex, or sexuality swaps. The two women in question are obviously attracted to each other, but it does not go beyond one of them stroking the face of the other. In my opinion that in and of itself - without knowing how things are in the game - is not woke.

So I went to the wiki for the characters, and there's nothing in the game about the two characters mentioned in this thread being lesbians in the game: https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Vi#Caitlyn_Kiramman

However, they mention that in the television show they're in a romantic relationship: https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Caitlyn#Relationships

So they made two characters who weren't gay, gay. And you don't see that as being woke?

But then this explains everything, when you type...

I always had some tolerance for woke elements, and don't feel like I have been more accepting recently, than I have always been.

This is why I say you're brainwashed. Not to be mean, but just because that's what it is.

What's the definition of brainwashed?

"any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, especially one based on repetition or confusion"

You don't have knowledge of the game, nor the characters, and so when the characters -- who were previously not gay -- are turned gay, you don't see it as woke because you've been conditioned not to see it as a problem.

You don't even know why it's not woke, you just don't think of hetero-conversion as woke.

In your own words, you've already been accepting of it because you've already been conditioned to accept it.

This is in result of what's called cultivation theory. You've been conditioned for so long to not see Left-wing propaganda as being woke; therefore your definition of "woke" has been diluted to the point of it being normal for you, hence why I say you're brainwashed.

If you don't understand what cultivation theory is, here is a quick rundown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hKaIeAi7OI

As I mentioned to the other fellow who also didn't think it was woke, your generation has been so inundated with race mixing, overpowered feminist characters, noble minority tropes, and incessant alphabet soup propaganda that you don't even know what it looks like as propaganda even when it's staring you in the face.

I do agree that I would probably not notice if someone has brainwashed me, but if my level of acceptance is what it always has been, then either that has happened a long time ago, or it has not happened.

You're actually right about this, and sadly this is what I've been trying to get across to so many other users here much older than you.

A user named Smith has repeatedly become frustrated seeing a lot of his favorite franchises becoming subverted with Left-wing woke propaganda. He's in his 40s; he grew up in an era with little to no woke Left-wing propaganda. So he can very readily and easily see it for what it is when it appears in media.

I try to explain to people like him that today's woke propaganda isn't for people who grew up on media in the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s. It's for the next generation, the generation after that, and so on and so forth.

Your generation has grown up embedded with the propaganda, it's part of your cultural DNA. So it's much, much, much harder to break the conditioning, or worse yet, to even see it as conditioning.

A good example is that the other user I was responding to in this thread felt it was normal that media uses elements of sapphic erotica to appeal to audiences as a way to subversively get people to accept lesbianism in mainstream media more easily. He didn't even understand that using lesbianism as a gateway into porn, homosexual acceptance, and grooming -- based on porn/erotica -- was propaganda!

Sorry for making this comment so long, but I'm not trying to attack you, just trying to get you to understand that the Left is playing the long game, and each new generation will become more and more groomed at birth into accepting their propaganda because it's everywhere, all the time; games, movies, music, comics, books, and streaming.

You cannot have helped it growing up because you didn't know; it was just part of the zeitgeist of growing up in today's media generation.

Unfortunately, many of your peers within your age group will continue to be fed subversive media. They'll recoil at the more extreme versions of it, just until that becomes normalized enough so that the next generation will see even the extreme forms of propaganda as normal.

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– BlightBane [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I don't take your comments as an attack at all. Nobody is immune to manipulation or brainwashing, especially the more slow burning and persistent it is.

So they made two characters who weren't gay, gay. And you don't see that as being woke?

I didnt see it as woke, because I have no knowledge of the game and whether the characters in the show are even in it. I didnt see it as an X-swap, since I had nothing to compare the show to. I dont see it as brainwashing, as opposed to knowing something and being OK with it I didnt know it.

you've been conditioned not to see it as a problem.

The same, I have not seen it because I didnt know anything about the characters. If they were not even hinted at as being bi/gay in the game and it is at least hinted at in the show, then that is woke, yes.

you just don't think of hetero-conversion as woke.

I do. You argument so far rests on me not seeing something since there was no way for me to see it, as that would have required knowledge of the characters in the game, which is something that I do not have. I am not going to respond again with the same answer to the same argument, if you dont mind.

many other users here much older than you.

I dont share much personal stuff, so not sure how you guessed my age.

A user named Smith [...] He's in his 40s [...]

If you mean Smith1980, and 1980 is his year of birth, then I am older, than him, actually.

Your generation has grown up embedded with the propaganda

I am starting to feel you have misjudged my age by at least a decade, if not two. I am not the next generation, compared to Smith1980, I am the same generation. I grew up mostly in the 80s and 90s.

Sorry for making this comment so long, but I'm not trying to attack you

No worries, I appreciate you taking the time, and you have made good points. They are just not true for me, at least not in this particular case.

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