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posted ago by BlightBane ago by BlightBane +24 / -5

Never played or cared for LoL, so I don't know if a fan would have an issue with anything, but this was a damn good show, and had a really great villain.

Didn't catch any woke shit either.

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HarryPearce 16 points ago +20 / -4

No. It's barely passable and overtly leftist. Beware the ratchet of standards.

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BlightBane [S] 7 points ago +8 / -1

I disagree with the "barely passable" part.

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BidenLikesMiners 3 points ago +3 / -0

What are some scenes in it that had the overt leftism in them?

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Cazarosta 2 points ago +2 / -0

Curious of this as well.

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HarryPearce 2 points ago +2 / -0

I could do the 2015 low IQ anti-sjw youtuber thing and point to any of the dumb lesbian scenes, or subverting expectations by a militaristic country being ran/represented by gorrila build black bitch that enjoys emasculating twinks, but to me it's the entire gay egalitarian narrative woven through out. That even the "evul rich oppressors" that dare to have clean streets while le minorities are busy slumming it fetishize equality and progress. Which is an element of the leftist schizophrenic world building, wherein even the "side" cast as class oppressors through the typical marxist dialectic, still somehow unironically virtue signal towards leftist utopian ideals.

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MargarineMongoose 0 points ago +3 / -3

Holy shit you're retarded.

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HarryPearce 6 points ago +7 / -1

Rather be retarded than a leftoid vermin

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MargarineMongoose 0 points ago +2 / -2

Keep telling yourself that.

You are a blind man proclaiming to have clarity of vision.

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ApparentlyImAHeretic 2 points ago +2 / -0

God, nothing of value at all has been said in this chain

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acp_k2win 16 points ago +16 / -0

I wouldn't say it was woke but it had some woke-adjacent sensibilities. I still really liked the show.

It had an implied same-sex relationship which is cannon in game lore. The main character of the first 3 episodes has cookie cutter dyke aesthetics. The idea of a battle-hardened muscle-bound horny black grandma is 100% woke wank material, same with the idea of a black or woman "engineering genius" but it isn't immersion breaking because of the fantasy setting.

What it does do to "subvert expectations" is an explicit denouncement of violent revolution of the "oppressed" as counterproductive. Also the women fail a bunch in a spectacular fashion, the men aren't all incompetent, and there is a positive portrayal of fatherhood.

I loved the show and even disregarding the plot entirely the art is mindblowingly gorgeous and you can tell the creators knew it because of how they lingered on the background shots or showed so many "movie poster" scenes.

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BlightBane [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

Agree with the visuals being impressive, and it gave a bit of a Dishonored vibe too which I also quite liked in that game back in the day.

If you put all of what you wrote on a scale I would say it is pretty balanced, definitely a lot more, than most of the drivel we get these days.

And Silco was mighty fine.

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Killroyomega 11 points ago +12 / -1

It's pretty sad if you are at the point of thinking Arcane was good.

Arcane was painfully average.

Compared to the shit pumped out in the past decade by western studies it must seem amazing, but compared to anime it's forgettable.

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BlightBane [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

I am always open for recommendations.

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Schmendrick_Lamar 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm with you OP. I believe "really damn good" was the way I put it elsewhere.

Is there any anime you've particularly enjoyed in the past?

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The_Gay_Deceiver 11 points ago +11 / -0

Well they're gonna make Vi and Caitlyn lesbos so that's pretty retarded. Not to go on about "muh double standards" but imagine if every time there were a couple of male crime-fighting partners we had to worry if they fucked each other in the ass and if we were going to be subjected to that faggotry. Not to mention it's clearly not what was intended for their characters in the game.

Otherwise Noxus being represented exclusively by BBBW is like a parody of leftist demands in media. The entire time I felt like the stronk black counselor lady was the most unnecessary character to give any real screen time to but then oh lawd she comin- her mom fucking shows up. Really had to just bear through all of that waiting for the shit everyone actually cares about. Would have been cool to see, idk, an actual Noxian champion from the game show up to represent Noxus, but fuck anyone who actually liked the game, I guess. The original description of Noxus included the word "diverse" so I guess that means they're all black now. I wonder if Swain is gonna be their pimp.

Seriously though it's not even nigger fatigue at this point, that shit was just retarded. I knew the second that Vi/Jinx were going to be the focus that Ekko was going to be in it. And trust me, I hate fucking Ekko, his design philosophy was everything that was wrong with the game around that time and he was basically like the final signal that they really weren't going to reverse course on that. But he was fine in the show. They had their token black, who was an actual fucking champion in the show, idk why they needed more. Tencent owns Riot games anyway you'd figure they'd try to deemphasize it since Chinese don't like black people but I guess not.

Otherwise yeah, I liked it. They seemingly compartmentalized all of it somewhat efficiently from the main appeal of the show.

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Grumman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Would have been cool to see, idk, an actual Noxian champion from the game show up to represent Noxus

Noxian champions are representatives of the Noxian war machine - soldiers, generals and assassins. It would be dumb fanservice to have them in a show that is set neither in Noxus nor somewhere Noxus is currently conquering.

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The_Gay_Deceiver 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well it was definitely portraying strong fat black woman as a military officer of some kind.

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BidenLikesMiners 2 points ago +2 / -0

its not for the hcina market and maybe they like dividing the us like it does.

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ApparentlyImAHeretic 9 points ago +9 / -0

Arcane is a pretty "progressive" show with casual lesbianism, racial diversity, and stronk females. The difference between Arcane and other progressive shows, however, is that they play everything straight and give each character the respect they deserve. Every hero has faults to overcome, every villain has understandable motives, and nobody is perfect. Everyone is desperate to get what they want, but the script doesn't take anyone's side. Nothing comes across as preachy, and there will never be a point where the hero looks at the camera and proclaims trans rights. Combine that with solid animation and brilliant fight and action choreography, and I can safely put it on the shelf for woke shit I actually enjoyed, right next to Horizon: Zero Dawn.

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fauxgnaws 6 points ago +6 / -0

They weren't playing it straight when the 100 lbs girl beat up the 250 lbs meathead street fighter who was on magic steroids. Using maybe 20 lbs of iron fist she looks like she could barely even lift.

It was so comical I totally checked out. Left the rest on as background noise.

Maybe it was explained the fists had like inertial gyros in there or something and I just missed it.

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ernsithe 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's been close to a decade since I played, but if memory serves Vi's gauntlets are "hextech" like every other thing they want to look cool and hand-wave. It's various magics shoved into a crystal or artifact form so that a normal person can use it.

Jayce's cannon? Hextech. Vi's gauntlets? Hextech. All of Viktor's shit? Hextech. What powers Blitz and Ori? Hextech.

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fauxgnaws 2 points ago +2 / -0

In the show only the surface people have hextech and the sewer people only have machines and steroids.

If they had a one-liner even that the gloves were magic I could get past it, except before that the 100 lbs girl was already beating up the 250 lbs streetfighter... the guy took steroids so she had to get the magic fists. Like okay maybe a skeleton-ninja could beat up some meathead like Schwarzenegger, but not a streetfighter. It was just totally unbelievable.

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MargarineMongoose 1 point ago +1 / -0

If they had a one-liner even that the gloves were magic I could get past it,

They literally had that.

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fauxgnaws 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh, what was it they said?

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ApparentlyImAHeretic 1 point ago +1 / -0

In the early scenes, they were gloves that belonged to Vander, a powerful freedom-fighter and essentially Vi's father figure. In the show, hextech didn't exist in their first encounter, so the gloves were essentially really heavy knuckledusters. Later in the show, after hextech is introduced, Vi scores a hextech gauntlet which turns her into the super fighter we know in the games.

Having done martial and weapon sports myself, I can tell you it doesn't take much with weapons to even the playing field against a stronger opponent. I've seen a normal-sized man KO armored fighters with a 1-foot club in ACL battles (armored combat league).

From early in the show, Vi is shown to be a seasoned fighter. A pair of heavy knuckledusters can definitely even the odds of a seasoned fighter against a larger and doped up opponent.

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MargarineMongoose 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think it was Jayce in his lab with all the Hextech stuff he'd created and someone(I think it was Vi, but might have been someone else) picks up the guantlets and he remarks about how he created those to help with mining. The whole thing is very clearly framed as "look at this sweet Hextech item we built with our magical Hextech".

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current_horror 5 points ago +5 / -0

right next to horizon zero dawn

So it's woke. Thanks for the heads up.

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BlightBane [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

HZD is a game that I still haven't made up my mind on, a lot of people call it woke feminist trash, and the sequel Aloy design is definitely bad with the fat face.

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BidenLikesMiners 2 points ago +2 / -0

hzd 1 was under cover tranny. hzd2 went full on tlou tranny.

https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/1151640/header.jpg?t=1635442187

looks like tranny, but its almost like she has fake boobs

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Horizon-Zero-Dawn-900x506.jpg

heres where they went fully tranny, notice how she is as flat as a coalminer in the newer art

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ApparentlyImAHeretic 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't have much hope for the sequel, I just know that the original was fun enough for me to play it all the way through. The woke parts like the hyper diversity actually get explained when the plot twist is revealed, which I thought was neat.

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trump4044 8 points ago +12 / -4

That's right. Gobble up those scraps little dog. If you do as master says you may not get the stick again.

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throwawayaccount2037 12 points ago +13 / -1

That's exactly how OP's post read.

Next year, when they include the trannies and the groomers people will attempt to justify it because the "story and animation are so good".

It's amazing how Netflix keeps winning with their brainwashing propaganda even when we all know the formula by now.

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BlightBane [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

How is me enjoying one of their shows a win of their brainwashing?

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throwawayaccount2037 2 points ago +3 / -1

Are you planning on watching the second season?

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BlightBane [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I will pirate it and give it a shot, like I did with the first one. Still don't see how it is brainwashing. I am not giving them money, and my opinion or acceptance does not move one iota because of this show.

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throwawayaccount2037 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're literally in a thread with a post titled "Arcane is pretty damn good", convincing people to give it a watch.

You've been convinced to convince others to watch it. You won't get it because you've already been sucked in.

Read your own post, you typed...

Didn't catch any woke shit either.

I scrolled through the comments and a couple of people already pointed out several instances of Left-wing propaganda, including making some characters gay that weren't gay in the game.

I hate to break it to you, but if you couldn't spot out any of the woke elements it means you've already been brainwashed to accept it.

They essentially took the frog out of the boiling pot of water and put it in a crying pan set to "simmer" and people are saying, "this is fine, I'm okay with this."

It means their propaganda is working.

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BlightBane [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have zero knowledge of the game so I wouldn't catch race, sex, or sexuality swaps. The two women in question are obviously attracted to each other, but it does not go beyond one of them stroking the face of the other. In my opinion that in and of itself - without knowing how things are in the game - is not woke.

I always had some tolerance for woke elements, and don't feel like I have been more accepting recently, than I have always been.

I do agree that I would probably not notice if someone has brainwashed me, but if my level of acceptance is what it always has been, then either that has happened a long time ago, or it has not happened.

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throwawayaccount2037 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have zero knowledge of the game so I wouldn't catch race, sex, or sexuality swaps. The two women in question are obviously attracted to each other, but it does not go beyond one of them stroking the face of the other. In my opinion that in and of itself - without knowing how things are in the game - is not woke.

So I went to the wiki for the characters, and there's nothing in the game about the two characters mentioned in this thread being lesbians in the game: https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Vi#Caitlyn_Kiramman

However, they mention that in the television show they're in a romantic relationship: https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Caitlyn#Relationships

So they made two characters who weren't gay, gay. And you don't see that as being woke?

But then this explains everything, when you type...

I always had some tolerance for woke elements, and don't feel like I have been more accepting recently, than I have always been.

This is why I say you're brainwashed. Not to be mean, but just because that's what it is.

What's the definition of brainwashed?

"any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, especially one based on repetition or confusion"

You don't have knowledge of the game, nor the characters, and so when the characters -- who were previously not gay -- are turned gay, you don't see it as woke because you've been conditioned not to see it as a problem.

You don't even know why it's not woke, you just don't think of hetero-conversion as woke.

In your own words, you've already been accepting of it because you've already been conditioned to accept it.

This is in result of what's called cultivation theory. You've been conditioned for so long to not see Left-wing propaganda as being woke; therefore your definition of "woke" has been diluted to the point of it being normal for you, hence why I say you're brainwashed.

If you don't understand what cultivation theory is, here is a quick rundown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hKaIeAi7OI

As I mentioned to the other fellow who also didn't think it was woke, your generation has been so inundated with race mixing, overpowered feminist characters, noble minority tropes, and incessant alphabet soup propaganda that you don't even know what it looks like as propaganda even when it's staring you in the face.

I do agree that I would probably not notice if someone has brainwashed me, but if my level of acceptance is what it always has been, then either that has happened a long time ago, or it has not happened.

You're actually right about this, and sadly this is what I've been trying to get across to so many other users here much older than you.

A user named Smith has repeatedly become frustrated seeing a lot of his favorite franchises becoming subverted with Left-wing woke propaganda. He's in his 40s; he grew up in an era with little to no woke Left-wing propaganda. So he can very readily and easily see it for what it is when it appears in media.

I try to explain to people like him that today's woke propaganda isn't for people who grew up on media in the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s. It's for the next generation, the generation after that, and so on and so forth.

Your generation has grown up embedded with the propaganda, it's part of your cultural DNA. So it's much, much, much harder to break the conditioning, or worse yet, to even see it as conditioning.

A good example is that the other user I was responding to in this thread felt it was normal that media uses elements of sapphic erotica to appeal to audiences as a way to subversively get people to accept lesbianism in mainstream media more easily. He didn't even understand that using lesbianism as a gateway into porn, homosexual acceptance, and grooming -- based on porn/erotica -- was propaganda!

Sorry for making this comment so long, but I'm not trying to attack you, just trying to get you to understand that the Left is playing the long game, and each new generation will become more and more groomed at birth into accepting their propaganda because it's everywhere, all the time; games, movies, music, comics, books, and streaming.

You cannot have helped it growing up because you didn't know; it was just part of the zeitgeist of growing up in today's media generation.

Unfortunately, many of your peers within your age group will continue to be fed subversive media. They'll recoil at the more extreme versions of it, just until that becomes normalized enough so that the next generation will see even the extreme forms of propaganda as normal.

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SleepyWhore 8 points ago +9 / -1

It is 90s era woke.

So it seems decent by today's standards. It really reads as something my younger, formerly more liberal self would write as an adolescent. The story beats and characters are all old tropes, but when everyone these days tries to subvert, the old tactics become refreshing. Regardless, fuck Netflix and pirate this shit. It is an ok show to put on while exercising, but not worth dedicated time.

Yes, Vi is an obvious working class lesbian, there is nothing wrong with that dynamic between her and the rich girl going through a phase, it is easily believable and comical for everyone who went to college.

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throwawayaccount2037 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yes, Vi is an obvious working class lesbian, there is nothing wrong with that dynamic between her and the rich girl going through a phase, it is easily believable and comical for everyone who went to college.

This is literally the kind of woke nonsense that's in everything.

The fact that we're at a point where everyone has been brainwashed to calls this nonsense "normal" means the Left has already won.

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SleepyWhore 3 points ago +6 / -3

This type of "lesbian" relationship is flippant, common irl, and has always been fan service when depicted in media. You either have to be around 90 years old, a zoomer, or a newly minted religious trad to think otherwise.

These are not real lesbians, they are not even lesbians of the woke variety, they are cartoon characters written SPECIFICALLY for coomers to imagine them tribbing. I mentioned it before because it is literally the last thing you should be complaining about in the series. It is milk toast masturbatory fodder akin to every pubescent fanfic from the mid 90s.

And to their credit, the whole dynamic is barely brushed upon in the show. All of this exists only in your head and in some 15yos journal.

I get that a lot of you all are socially stunted, closet homosexuals, but sapphic bait has been a recorded phenomenon for a couple thousand years. Men enjoying women fucking is absolutely nothing new.

If any lesbianism actually gets presented in the show, you are guaranteed to have responses calling it condescending misogyny that appeal to male fantasy. There will be no woke praise, unless the show completely alters course.

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throwawayaccount2037 8 points ago +9 / -1

This type of "lesbian" relationship is flippant, common irl, and has always been fan service when depicted in media. You either have to be around 90 years old, a zoomer, or a newly minted religious trad to think otherwise.

No, you just have to be an under-30 coomer to think it's okay or a brainwashed 30+ Lefty to not see how it's invaded EVERYWHERE. These people made up less than 1.2% of the population just six years ago, so no, it's not common in real life (and it's "real life" not that shorthand jargon you picked up from some POCker-infested social media site).

These are not real lesbians, they are not even lesbians of the woke variety, they are cartoon characters written SPECIFICALLY for coomers to imagine them tribbing.

Ah, so it's subversion, like every other piece of woke media out there? Thanks for proving my point.

And to their credit, the whole dynamic is barely brushed upon in the show. All of this exists only in your head and in some 15yos journal.

You're the kind of person that allowed the gaming industry to fall into the hands of feminists by saying "It's not a big deal guys, just ignore them and they'll go away".

Your kind are the ones that open the gates and let all the Liberal degenerates run roughshod.

Also, I don't care if it's "barely brushed upon", they've already laid the groundwork. You've already accepted the groundwork. They will expand upon it next season and add more of it because your kind already accepted it.

I get that a lot of you all are socially stunted, closet homosexuals, but sapphic bait has been a recorded phenomenon for a couple thousand years. Men enjoying women fucking is absolutely nothing new.

It's absolutely nothing new, but it's been the gateway drug for Coomers to eventually accept legalized pedophilia.

You don't get the leap now because you're engrossed in accepting their ideology. That's really how we got to this point, people like you accepting the inches so they could eventually take miles.

It goes: Lesbians are okay > gays are okay > trans are okay > child drag is okay > legalized pedophilia is okay.

Your response will be to deny it, but we're already here. In fact, there's a post about right here: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/141En407fD/you-knew-it-was-coming-/c/

If any lesbianism actually gets presented in the show, you are guaranteed to have responses calling it condescending misogyny that appeal to male fantasy. There will be no woke praise, unless the show completely alters course.

Either you're a teenager or legally retarded. That's not how any of this works.

They use lesbians as a gateway for your Coomers to accept their degeneracy. "They're okay with lesbianism? Great, lets add some flamboyant gays next season! Some trannies after that!"

You'll eat it up because you're already hooked.

As I mentioned in another comment, the Left has already won because of people like you.

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SleepyWhore -4 points ago +1 / -5

Reported for anti-Semitism.

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BidenLikesMiners 3 points ago +3 / -0

it doesnt look like anti semitism lol, even as a reach, hes saying that there is a slippery acceptance from all this lesbian and lgbt shit in every kids show into accepting kids consenting... that seems to be the way that entertainment is going these days, no?

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SleepyWhore 1 point ago +1 / -0

I just don't feel like entering a Reddit tier argument with someone I agree on with most points. I only said if you're gonna complain about something, Vi being a dyke should be last on the list. Dude's just myopic af and windmilling.

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BidenLikesMiners 3 points ago +3 / -0

90s cartoons didnt talk about sexuality every 5 minutes, but maybe that was just me remembering a better era.

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SleepyWhore 1 point ago +1 / -0

More 90s teen dramas introducing outcasts. If you're gonna compare it to anything it would be anime. And people conviemtly forget about all the loli and shota to call the genre "based".

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Piroko 5 points ago +5 / -0

Arcane is pretty damn good.

Love 2 spam AB waiting for CC to proc for AM.

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krzyzowiec 3 points ago +3 / -0

I feel you.

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cccpneveragain 5 points ago +5 / -0

If it's anything like the LoL I played, then it's a show where almost everyone bitches at each other about how they are the greatest player ever and everyone else is garbage and the sole reason they are held back from claiming their glory. Otherwise, I would have never had any idea there was a backstory at all.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

any game where the players will bitch about someone not having the "right" hero is a fucking bitch game

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BlightBane [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

No idea, as I know nothing about the game. Still don't care about it, but I am glad I gave the show a chance.

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cccpneveragain 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, I just don't remember anyone who played the game paying attention to the story in the slightest. I didn't even know there was enough of a story to make a show from.

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LauriThorne 3 points ago +3 / -0

There's basically no story but a shit ton of fan fiction level backstories for every character

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Daucus9 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don't know anything about LoL but I liked it a lot. Setting was multicultural fantasy so accuracy wasn't important.

Shit seemed balanced. Like okay you got the tough boxing chick, but she's not throwing down men twice her size. There's a scene where she has to fight a bunch of people but they're bottlenecked so they're forced to go one at a time, and she's got some serious brass knuckles. She's also not taking hits, if she gets smacked she's in serious trouble. Later on people fight using tech and that was cool.

Just about every character felt interesting. Both men and women die. The show doesn't do that thing where all the female characters are competent while the male characters are bumbling fools, everyone's got motivation and flaws and both men and women die. I think Viktor was my favorite character.

Hope they keep it up with Season 2.

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Decrixxx 2 points ago +2 / -0

no is woke shit, and the art style of some characters, specifically women, look like they are emaciated and sick. I won't even pirate it.

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MargarineMongoose 1 point ago +1 / -0

Arcane was one of the best pieces of media I've seen in years.