Weirdly, perhaps, for a lonely internet shut-in, I've always wanted a big family...
Like, it has long been my biggest dream is life to have a family approaching this size...
Maybe it comes from the fact that I was a very lonely, sad only child, who desperately wanted a sibling, and whose parents... Well let's just say it's harder to take a kid's sibling away, if I had any, than to prevent him from ever seeing his friends again. In theory, anyway...
So... Yeah. I know it very likely will never happen (I'm not gay, I just... Don't see myself meeting someone who wants that with me. Or living that long...), but... It makes me kind of sad that this most natural of urges; this most... Basic of things... Essentially your "biological imperative" as an animal (further than that, as a living being, seeing as this "need to reproduce" applies to plants and fucking bacteria, too)... Has become something that is seen as a negative, a bad thing, at least if you are a straight, white millennial... :-(
Brb, moving to... Eastern Europe somewhere, or the Philippines...
I joke, and I hope it doesn't come to that, but jesus I wish there were more women like this out there, somewhere I can... Actually find/meet one. :-/
I met my husband at 33 and we're about to have 3 kids in 4 years. Don't give up. We met at a concert for an obscure musician. The dating "scene" is garbage, you'll only find trash, so find ways to add a social element to your hobbies. -from one only child to another
It's important to focus on self (not being selfish, but self improvement). Develop hobbies, pursue interests, and things will naturally fall into place via simply fulfilling goals in life.
Hey thanks. <3 Genuinely appreciate this, and it made me feel a bit better to read it, haha...
I guess the thing is... In Australia right now, concerts are... Almost exceptionally rare. Anything like that is. Not because we don't have the talent, or the resources, but because... We're not really allowed to do anything "normal", and governments keep shifting the goalposts on when we might be able to, again...
So not that it's any real excuse, but... Any time I go to "plan" for anything great (like that concert you mention), the stupid fucks declare another "outbreak" of like, six cases, and I end up spending EVEN MORE time stuck in my fucking house, rueing lost chances...
I know this (hopefully) won't always be like this, and I do remain hopeful, but... It's so hard.
Especially when my home city just turned one of its best pubs into a homeless shelter (I am not kidding), and another of my favourite pubs, which hosted a gig only the night before, was burned down due to one of its other... Long-term (i.e. homeless) residents out the back stubbing his fucking cigarette out on the hotel room bed... :-/
So it's just... Yeah, not been a great time, to meet people at gigs, down here, I'm afraid, and those things make it worse, ha. But I do remain hopeful, so thanks, again.
You're welcome. The subject is dear to my heart, because of course I went through a lifetime of being the odd one out, with no one to share enthusiasm in my interests. Then by most men's standards, me being single still at 33 meant I was all dried out and no good to anyone. Might as well give up and join a convent. Yet here I am with my husband and a third child on the way.
Disappointment and loneliness really weigh on you. I'll tell you what helped even more than the concert. A few weeks beforehand, I was really down on myself for being single at 33. I thought it was too late for me and maybe I was destined for a solo life. So I prayed to God (which was new for me at the time) and said "God, I really want to be a wife and mother for someone but if that is not in your plans for me than I accept that". I gave up this dream to Him, and vowed to try to accept my situation.
Then I realized that if I was going to be single, I was going to be my own boyfriend. So I adopted a mentality of being loving and caring to myself. "DrinkCovfefe, what would you like to do this weekend?" I would say, then do the things that made me happy without feeling guilty or silly, like I should be doing something else, being more productive or trying to make myself and my home "better".
That's what led me to the concert, I was taking myself out for a night on the town. And I was having a great time by myself, as we only children can do, being good at entertaining ourselves. So it was really the mentality of caring for myself as I normally would do for a partner, that brought me out and put the smile on my face that attracted my husband.
It must be hard with everything closed down, and having your favorite pub turn into a homeless shelter really sucks. But you know when someone is comfortable with themselves, it shows, and people flock to you. Who knows, maybe you will be stuck in line somewhere and a cute girl will stand behind you wearing a shirt from that obscure thing you like. Don't give into the gloom, my friend!
From that perspective, it is utterly insane to me that a species, or part of it at least, would choose to cease reproduction. Like, that is... So unusual as to be almost "unique", both historically and in the animal kingdom more broadly...
I hate to say it, but I think it means we fucked up massively, somewhere along the way...
"Voluntary human extinction" is such a bizarre concept, so utterly insane from any logical, scientific perspective, let alone a RELIGIOUS/SPIRITUAL one, to take the opposite perspective, that it is, just...
Maybe we're too "intelligent" for our own good? I really don't know, but it does... Worry me, that this shit is mainstream. That should never, ever have happened.
Even Disney had to make up the shit about lemmings jumping off cliffs. And yet we, as a species, seem to be determined to actually do it, lol...
Unfortunately, though, it is the future generations that will pay for that "choice".
The mouse utopia maps onto humans almost perfectly, and this isn't the first time it has happened to Man. Rome, Baghdad, and Greece saw very similar conditions.
In our own time the whole of Greece has been subjected to a low birth rate and a general decrease of the population, owing to which cities have become deserted and the land has ceased to yield fruit, although there has been neither continuous wars or epidemics... For as men had fallen into such a state of prententiousness, avarice, and indolence that they did not wish to marry, or if they married to rear the children born to them, or at most as a rule but one or two of them, so as to leave these in affluence and bring them up to waste their substance, the evil rapidly and insensibly grew.
I've never heard of any of that, except re the fall of Rome, and how its population dropped as much as it did, so cheers for this!
I will do some more research, and perhaps try and fit it into a future essay somewhere, ha!
If you have more quotes/info about any of that (mouse utopia?? I can guess what that entailed, but I don't think I've ever heard of it before!), please spill, coz I'm interested to hear it!
Also, what era was Polybius..? Are we talking Hellenistic Greece, here, or like, later, around the time they were taken over by Rome..??
Corinth was physically removed by Rome, which is the usual demarcation of Rome controlling Greece, halfway through Polybius' life. The Mouse Utopia shows that when animals don't have to struggle to survive they choose not to survive.
Weirdly, perhaps, for a lonely internet shut-in, I've always wanted a big family...
Like, it has long been my biggest dream is life to have a family approaching this size...
Maybe it comes from the fact that I was a very lonely, sad only child, who desperately wanted a sibling, and whose parents... Well let's just say it's harder to take a kid's sibling away, if I had any, than to prevent him from ever seeing his friends again. In theory, anyway...
So... Yeah. I know it very likely will never happen (I'm not gay, I just... Don't see myself meeting someone who wants that with me. Or living that long...), but... It makes me kind of sad that this most natural of urges; this most... Basic of things... Essentially your "biological imperative" as an animal (further than that, as a living being, seeing as this "need to reproduce" applies to plants and fucking bacteria, too)... Has become something that is seen as a negative, a bad thing, at least if you are a straight, white millennial... :-(
Brb, moving to... Eastern Europe somewhere, or the Philippines...
I joke, and I hope it doesn't come to that, but jesus I wish there were more women like this out there, somewhere I can... Actually find/meet one. :-/
I met my husband at 33 and we're about to have 3 kids in 4 years. Don't give up. We met at a concert for an obscure musician. The dating "scene" is garbage, you'll only find trash, so find ways to add a social element to your hobbies. -from one only child to another
Yep, that's good advice.
It's important to focus on self (not being selfish, but self improvement). Develop hobbies, pursue interests, and things will naturally fall into place via simply fulfilling goals in life.
Hey thanks. <3 Genuinely appreciate this, and it made me feel a bit better to read it, haha...
I guess the thing is... In Australia right now, concerts are... Almost exceptionally rare. Anything like that is. Not because we don't have the talent, or the resources, but because... We're not really allowed to do anything "normal", and governments keep shifting the goalposts on when we might be able to, again...
So not that it's any real excuse, but... Any time I go to "plan" for anything great (like that concert you mention), the stupid fucks declare another "outbreak" of like, six cases, and I end up spending EVEN MORE time stuck in my fucking house, rueing lost chances...
I know this (hopefully) won't always be like this, and I do remain hopeful, but... It's so hard.
Especially when my home city just turned one of its best pubs into a homeless shelter (I am not kidding), and another of my favourite pubs, which hosted a gig only the night before, was burned down due to one of its other... Long-term (i.e. homeless) residents out the back stubbing his fucking cigarette out on the hotel room bed... :-/
So it's just... Yeah, not been a great time, to meet people at gigs, down here, I'm afraid, and those things make it worse, ha. But I do remain hopeful, so thanks, again.
Only child high five, haha.
You're welcome. The subject is dear to my heart, because of course I went through a lifetime of being the odd one out, with no one to share enthusiasm in my interests. Then by most men's standards, me being single still at 33 meant I was all dried out and no good to anyone. Might as well give up and join a convent. Yet here I am with my husband and a third child on the way.
Disappointment and loneliness really weigh on you. I'll tell you what helped even more than the concert. A few weeks beforehand, I was really down on myself for being single at 33. I thought it was too late for me and maybe I was destined for a solo life. So I prayed to God (which was new for me at the time) and said "God, I really want to be a wife and mother for someone but if that is not in your plans for me than I accept that". I gave up this dream to Him, and vowed to try to accept my situation.
Then I realized that if I was going to be single, I was going to be my own boyfriend. So I adopted a mentality of being loving and caring to myself. "DrinkCovfefe, what would you like to do this weekend?" I would say, then do the things that made me happy without feeling guilty or silly, like I should be doing something else, being more productive or trying to make myself and my home "better".
That's what led me to the concert, I was taking myself out for a night on the town. And I was having a great time by myself, as we only children can do, being good at entertaining ourselves. So it was really the mentality of caring for myself as I normally would do for a partner, that brought me out and put the smile on my face that attracted my husband.
It must be hard with everything closed down, and having your favorite pub turn into a homeless shelter really sucks. But you know when someone is comfortable with themselves, it shows, and people flock to you. Who knows, maybe you will be stuck in line somewhere and a cute girl will stand behind you wearing a shirt from that obscure thing you like. Don't give into the gloom, my friend!
Side note: I am an evolutionary biologist.
From that perspective, it is utterly insane to me that a species, or part of it at least, would choose to cease reproduction. Like, that is... So unusual as to be almost "unique", both historically and in the animal kingdom more broadly...
I hate to say it, but I think it means we fucked up massively, somewhere along the way... "Voluntary human extinction" is such a bizarre concept, so utterly insane from any logical, scientific perspective, let alone a RELIGIOUS/SPIRITUAL one, to take the opposite perspective, that it is, just...
Maybe we're too "intelligent" for our own good? I really don't know, but it does... Worry me, that this shit is mainstream. That should never, ever have happened.
Even Disney had to make up the shit about lemmings jumping off cliffs. And yet we, as a species, seem to be determined to actually do it, lol...
Unfortunately, though, it is the future generations that will pay for that "choice".
The mouse utopia maps onto humans almost perfectly, and this isn't the first time it has happened to Man. Rome, Baghdad, and Greece saw very similar conditions.
-Polybius
Interesting...
I've never heard of any of that, except re the fall of Rome, and how its population dropped as much as it did, so cheers for this! I will do some more research, and perhaps try and fit it into a future essay somewhere, ha!
If you have more quotes/info about any of that (mouse utopia?? I can guess what that entailed, but I don't think I've ever heard of it before!), please spill, coz I'm interested to hear it!
Also, what era was Polybius..? Are we talking Hellenistic Greece, here, or like, later, around the time they were taken over by Rome..??
Corinth was physically removed by Rome, which is the usual demarcation of Rome controlling Greece, halfway through Polybius' life. The Mouse Utopia shows that when animals don't have to struggle to survive they choose not to survive.
Our species evolved in an environment where 1 person could only collect so much stuff.
The tribe of around 100 people - limited by physical reality is the environment we evolved in.
Things have changed to where 1 person can hold power over billions of people and we don't have much defense against it.