Noticed that vaccines have been brought up in quite a few comment sections, even in posts that are only tangentially related, but that there wasn't a post specifically about the intent behind the vaccines.
So anyone with theories or thoughts related to the vaccine and the push for it, this is your discussion thread.
My personal thoughts: the ultimate intent is a combination of population control, and consolidation of power, for 3 reasons:
- most developed nations, both west and east, are facing an imminent unbalance in age demographics because the baby boomers are getting to the age where they already have (or are about to) retire en masse. This will put massive pressure on government programs, with too many takers and not enough working taxpayers. So they want the old people to die before this happens.
(As an aside, this was arguably the main reason why they recently tried to push mass migration, to get more taxpayers. But we all know how that went)
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I've seen people argue (not unreasonably) along the lines of "why would they kill the most obedient ones?" Because right now, the dissidents are protected from the elite, by safety in numbers. They (we?) Can easily blend into a crowd to hide. But what happens if the elite kill the obedient, and there is no crowd left to hide in? They will much more easily be able to control people, when there are fewer people.
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people behind vaccine development/distribution like Gates and the WEF, have openly stated population reduction to be a goal of theirs for various reasons.
That's the gist of my thoughts. Any other opinions are welcome
No, it wasn't 'obvious' at all. So you think everyone who has taken a vaccine is going to die, or what? The 'high rate' of complications is still peanuts compared to the number of deaths that would have occurred among the elderly from the vaccine.
That first part is true, that second part I don't know. But it's got nothing to do with your claim that the vaccine kills people.
WRONG. You have no data on how many elderly have died FROM COVID not the elderly who died WITH COVID. If you didn't bother to troll by being an ignoramus you ask WHY the health authorities and mainstream media are masking the actual numbers by claiming that people dying from unrelated causes is due to COVID instead of only reporting people who have only died FROM COVID?
Worse yet, is that the only study actually monitoring the death rates was retracted after Leftists complained about it. The numbers look grim: https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/7/693/htm
Now ask yourself this (and you have no answer for it because they didn't brainwash one into you) WHY is the FDA, CDC, Big Pharma, and national governments NOT mandating the tracking of vaccine-related death rates and WHY are the banning publication of studies that attempt to track the numbers?
Except it does. More of your Left-wing idiocy really grates on me. Misinformation and disinformation are things I hate most.
We know for a fact that the vaccines have killed more people than all other vaccines over the last decade: https://www.sott.net/article/451468-CDC-says-the-3005-recorded-deaths-following-COVID-19-experimental-vaccines-total-MORE-than-vaccine-deaths-for-last-13-years
And we know for a fact that the vaccines cause morbid side-effects the likes of which you will never encounter from COVID alone, such as still-births, infertility, incessant menstrual bleeding, and blood clots. There is literally zero benefits to the vaccines, NONE at all.
The vaccines neither prevent you from catching COVID, spreading COVID, or even dying from COVID: https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/4115-vaccinated-people-have-died-been-hospitalized-with-covid-19-breakthrough-infections-cdc_3876243.html
I don't expect an intelligent reply from someone like you, but WHY do you insist on keep repeating falsehoods and spreading disinformation? What's the point?
It would be different if you asked questions or sought information, but all I see you doing is spreading the same lies over and over again even when the facts are as clear as day saying otherwise. It makes you look like either a troll or a fool.
I expect brainwashed people on Reddit to be uninformed, uneducated and so thoroughly wrapped up in toeing the line that they refuse to examine the facts, but what's your excuse for still being this ignorant and blatantly ignoring irrefutable data?
So if COVID killed literally no one, what is the cause of the excess mortality?
And you think that's because the vaccine is killing everyone who is taking the vaccine? And that is calling other people brainwashed.
Like your fellow nutjobs on the left, who call everything 'right-wing' and 'Nazi', right-wing loons call everything sensible that they do not like 'left-wing' and 'communist'.
What imbecility. Even assuming all the nonsense that you have claimed, this would not be established.
Your 'data' is not even data, let alone irrefutable. The mere fact that mainstream sources have shown themselves to be bankrupt, does not mean that I have to accept any form of nuttery that comes from your no-name websites.
WHAT excess mortality? Cite the actual data of people who died FROM COVID.
You can't.
Even the CDC's figures are inconsistent because they're counting people who died WITH COVID not FROM COVID.
This is the fundamental flaw in your argument, because while you'll attempt to scavenge for numbers from a Left-wing source, no doubt, you will never stop to ask WHY is the CDC counting mortality rates of people WITH COVID instead of only counting the mortality rates of people who actually died FROM COVID?
Do you understand now? It's like someone who has allergies dies from a car accident and they count that that person died from allergies, even though they actually died from a car accident.
And before you say "that's preposterous"... that's literally what the CDC and other health officials are doing... LITERALLY: https://www.westernjournal.com/county-counted-car-crash-covid-death-finds-inflated-virus-death-toll-25-percent/
Oh, and they're not just counting car accidents as COVID-related deaths, but gunshot wounds, too: https://www.globalresearch.ca/gunshot-head-parkinsons-disease-deaths-palm-beach-incorrectly-attributed-covid-19/5719528
What a pathetic, strawman fallacy. Nowhere did I say the vaccine is "killing everyone". Please, learn to read.
How is believing falsehoods, spreading misinformation and potentially getting people here killed with your asinine toeing of mainstream media propaganda in anyway "sensible"? You have no data, you have no facts, you aren't even smart enough to ask simple and basic questions.
Your response is literally the equivalent of saying "nuh uh" and you refuse to even look at the data. Your argument literally boils down to: I feel the mainstream is trustworthy, so I don't care about the facts.
Nonsense?
Are you seriously trolling? Please read through this interview with the creator of RNA vaccines: https://www.theepochtimes.com/dr-robert-malone-mrna-vaccine-inventor-on-the-bioethics-of-experimental-vaccines-and-the-ultimate-gaslighting_3889805.html
Is what he saying nonsense?
Are the VAERs reports about myocarditis nonsense? https://greatgameindia.com/covid-19-vaccines-myocarditis/
Are the bloodclot reports nonsense? https://www.statnews.com/2021/04/13/researchers-search-for-answers-in-puzzle-of-blood-clots-and-covid-vaccines-and-see-some-clues/
Are the stillbirth reports nonsense? https://www.theepochtimes.com/3-dozen-cases-of-spontaneous-miscarriages-stillbirths-occurring-after-covid-19-vaccination_3716385.html
Are more kids are dying from the vaccines than COVID nonsense? https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cdc-vaers-deaths-reported-covid-vaccines/
None of those are side-effects or issues you experience from COVID alone. So why would anyone risk getting a vaccine that does not prevent you from catching, spreading, or dying from COVID if you also run the risk of literally DYING a mortality-induced side-effect from the vaccine itself?
What is the efficacy rates of the vaccines?
What is the death rates of the vaccines?
What is the long-term fatality rates of the vaccines?
Oh, none of that data is available, and we won't have any longitudinal studies released until May, 2023. So why on Earth would someone risk taking a vaccine that could KILL them when the survival rate of COVID is 99.7%?
It's one thing to dismiss actual conspiracy theories backed up by no data, but for you to literally dismiss health reports, VAERs reports, and actual medical research is just beyond the pale.
You have no sources to back up your position other than Left-wing news outlets pushing a political agenda, and ZERO actual science to back up any of the lies you've put out.
Heck, you're literally so brainwashed with your asinine Left-wing beliefs you literally cannot fathom to ask WHY the FDA, the CDC, Big Tech and the government are hiding the data and banning people for attempting to discover the actual death rates of these untested vaccines.
You won't even ask "WHY?!" yet you're calling people here "insane" and "brainwashed"? At least the conspiracy theorists here have enough common sense to employ critical thinking and ask questions.
You Leftists won't even do that. You don't even have an answer as to WHY these vaccines are being pushed so hard when there are ZERO longitudinal peer reviewed studies available. And you won't even ask WHY the DOD and FDA are blocking people from even trial testing alternative remedies.
Like a good little Leftist you couldn't even mount an argument against the data I said was irrefutable so you attacked the source instead of the information.
You literally make me sick.