Darknets like Freenet and GNUnet have been tried, and failed to become fast enough. Today's appstores will ban their apps for hate speech, while FBI & co will flood them with pedo content. The Deep State wants and created Big Tech and other oligopolies that they can control, unlike a million small actors. I'm not so optimistic about a technological solution to a political/criminal problem.
Have you tried having a discussion on Usenet lately? The spam is now completely out of control.
Yeah, we could have something like a private indexer, but then you're introducing gatekeeping and re-introducing central point of failure.
So it's still not any worse than the status quo already is? Especially with what's been going on against Patreon the last couple years, stripping these companies of legal protections is a good step forward. Taking the tech giants to court en masse is definitely an effective method.
The only kind of platform that wouldn't be liable in the absence of section 230 is one that simply refuses to censor user content.
Indeed, we would trade one villain for another. At this point, I'd rather take government control of the Internet over unelected monopolies who basically own the government anyway. With that, we can at least pretend to have a voice.
The best thing to happen, obviously, would be to go back to the 00s Internet: a cyber wild west where nobody is in control. Alas, tis but a memory.
People always get it backwards… corporations aren’t the ones in control, government is. Corporations buy influence from politicians, not the other way around. It’s important to remember government has the ability to shut down anything, for whatever invented reason they can invent. Government has a monopoly on the use of force that corporations simply can’t compete with.
Yes and?
The more the big platforms shoot themselves in the foot, the more other platforms will eventually be taller than them.
If you think that the next generation of platforms will be susceptible to such vagaries as laws, you haven't been paying attention.
I think we're a couple years out from seeing a PRACTICAL distributed hash social network that NOBODY will be able to bring down or even control.
Imagine usenet but stripped of all control. It will be fucking glorious.
So literally nothing but dick pics?
I do miss the wild west era of the internet so it'd be nice to get back to something like that.
Darknets like Freenet and GNUnet have been tried, and failed to become fast enough. Today's appstores will ban their apps for hate speech, while FBI & co will flood them with pedo content. The Deep State wants and created Big Tech and other oligopolies that they can control, unlike a million small actors. I'm not so optimistic about a technological solution to a political/criminal problem.
Have you tried having a discussion on Usenet lately? The spam is now completely out of control. Yeah, we could have something like a private indexer, but then you're introducing gatekeeping and re-introducing central point of failure.
20-25 years ago I had professors citing that the same couldn’t happen to the internet. That it would treat censorship as damage and route around it….
We see how that’s worked out…
What it would trigger is the death of social media. They'd be held criminally liable for anything done on their platform.
Which means that any platform they could possibly create would be profoundly unattractive to users.
So it's still not any worse than the status quo already is? Especially with what's been going on against Patreon the last couple years, stripping these companies of legal protections is a good step forward. Taking the tech giants to court en masse is definitely an effective method.
The only kind of platform that wouldn't be liable in the absence of section 230 is one that simply refuses to censor user content.
Either way that's a win for us.
maybe. banking "censorship" laws were put in place but the big 5 or so banks still clean money for international drug dealers and slavers.
Indeed, we would trade one villain for another. At this point, I'd rather take government control of the Internet over unelected monopolies who basically own the government anyway. With that, we can at least pretend to have a voice.
The best thing to happen, obviously, would be to go back to the 00s Internet: a cyber wild west where nobody is in control. Alas, tis but a memory.
People always get it backwards… corporations aren’t the ones in control, government is. Corporations buy influence from politicians, not the other way around. It’s important to remember government has the ability to shut down anything, for whatever invented reason they can invent. Government has a monopoly on the use of force that corporations simply can’t compete with.
At one point perhaps, but things have been changed. They weren’t able to destroy Trump. They had to rely on corrupt elections to do that.