I am fully and completely in agreement with Tim Pool on this.
Tim is NOT BLAMING ANDY FOR BEING BEATEN.
Here are the facts as we knew them on 18 May: a) Antifa knows what Andy looks like. b) Antifa has chased down and beaten Asian men who look like Andy c) Antifa has been very vocal on Twitter stating that if they catch Andy again they will beat him to death.
With these facts in mind, what does this tell us? Andy is no longer capable of infiltrating Antifa and accomplishing any sort of journalistic endeavor. Andy was taking extreme risks upon himself by even trying.
What Andy did was stupid. It shows lack of risk assessment. Tim's example of a female western reporter trying to report from an area where a muslim uprising is happening is exactly on point. In that area, with those people, sending a white female reporter in to cover that story was basically tantamount to sending her off to be gang raped with full knowledge that it would probably happen.
Self defense trainers have to have conversations with women trainees that involve clothing. Why? Because parading around in a little black dress can get you attacked, depending on context.. Should it happen? No. Can it happen? YES Does it suck that women have to think about what they are wearing? Yes. In the context of self defense, does this larger discussion about clothing inviting attacks matter.NO Real Life over rides theory, always.
Andy needs to stay away from Antifa, and no longer can do on the street reporting near them. This is reality, and Andy needs to understand this.
Is it Andy's fault he got attacked? No. Is it his fault that he was within reach to be attacked? YES.
Plan? Probably not. Accepting that it's going to happen and not caring, specifically after the cement milkshake incident, but doing it anyway? Yes. It's borderline retarded to continue at this point but there's 2 problems.
NO ONE else is going to do it, we saw Tim quit after just having a few mess with him and one stole his beanie and NONE of the other indie journalists will go near them for various reasons
Andy seems the type to not allow someone else to do it for him in case that person gets fucked up too.....Damned if you; Damned if you don't situation.
If so, being disingenuous about it isn't doing Andy any favors.
Why?
It's not damaging his reputation; everyone knows how PR works, and not being upfront about your motivations for being somewhere is literally in the job description for an undercover reporter.
Fighting fire with fire works, and antifa go to far greater lengths to engineer public opinion, staging videos, altering records and destroying any alternative recordings. Andy literally just showed his face so they could lose their shit and attempt murder live on camera, then documented it accurately so people will know better than to fall for antifa PR the lies.
What Andy did was stupid. It shows lack of risk assessment.
How do you suggest journalists investigate criminal enterprises that use violence against their enemies? Should cartels and mobs just not be investigated because they're willing to use violence? What does that say about the usefulness of violence as a means of stifling criticism?
Use journalists who don't have faces that will be recognized.
Police don't send officers undercover if they have a face known to the people being investigated. That tends to get said cop dead. The same thing applies to Andy Ngo.
Tim talks about this in his Instagram rant on Andy, he quit doing in person reporting because his face was being recognized, and it became too dangerous.
Reporters can't file articles if they are dead or in the hospital with major injuries.
This is why news agencies have staff. He needs to hire "a guy" to infiltrate them or otherwise get up-close footage during riots if he wants to do that kind of reporting now.
Tim pool can not be trusted
OK, this is gonna ruffle a few feathers.
I am fully and completely in agreement with Tim Pool on this.
Tim is NOT BLAMING ANDY FOR BEING BEATEN.
Here are the facts as we knew them on 18 May: a) Antifa knows what Andy looks like. b) Antifa has chased down and beaten Asian men who look like Andy c) Antifa has been very vocal on Twitter stating that if they catch Andy again they will beat him to death.
With these facts in mind, what does this tell us? Andy is no longer capable of infiltrating Antifa and accomplishing any sort of journalistic endeavor. Andy was taking extreme risks upon himself by even trying.
What Andy did was stupid. It shows lack of risk assessment. Tim's example of a female western reporter trying to report from an area where a muslim uprising is happening is exactly on point. In that area, with those people, sending a white female reporter in to cover that story was basically tantamount to sending her off to be gang raped with full knowledge that it would probably happen.
Self defense trainers have to have conversations with women trainees that involve clothing. Why? Because parading around in a little black dress can get you attacked, depending on context.. Should it happen? No. Can it happen? YES Does it suck that women have to think about what they are wearing? Yes. In the context of self defense, does this larger discussion about clothing inviting attacks matter. NO Real Life over rides theory, always.
Andy needs to stay away from Antifa, and no longer can do on the street reporting near them. This is reality, and Andy needs to understand this.
Is it Andy's fault he got attacked? No. Is it his fault that he was within reach to be attacked? YES.
It's starting to seem like getting attacked was always the plan. He's forcing people to talk about how terrible antifa is after all.
Plan? Probably not. Accepting that it's going to happen and not caring, specifically after the cement milkshake incident, but doing it anyway? Yes. It's borderline retarded to continue at this point but there's 2 problems.
NO ONE else is going to do it, we saw Tim quit after just having a few mess with him and one stole his beanie and NONE of the other indie journalists will go near them for various reasons
Andy seems the type to not allow someone else to do it for him in case that person gets fucked up too.....Damned if you; Damned if you don't situation.
If so, being disingenuous about it isn't doing Andy any favors.
Look at the pinned tweet Andy has up on his Twitter feed. He's not acting like that was his plan.
Why?
It's not damaging his reputation; everyone knows how PR works, and not being upfront about your motivations for being somewhere is literally in the job description for an undercover reporter.
Fighting fire with fire works, and antifa go to far greater lengths to engineer public opinion, staging videos, altering records and destroying any alternative recordings. Andy literally just showed his face so they could lose their shit and attempt murder live on camera, then documented it accurately so people will know better than to fall for antifa PR the lies.
Chad: yes
Well, he needs to decide what his intentions are at the very least.
I'm all for magnificent people who want to get martyred.
Yea, there is that.
How ‘bout you antifa shills go fuck yourself
How do you suggest journalists investigate criminal enterprises that use violence against their enemies? Should cartels and mobs just not be investigated because they're willing to use violence? What does that say about the usefulness of violence as a means of stifling criticism?
Use journalists who don't have faces that will be recognized.
Police don't send officers undercover if they have a face known to the people being investigated. That tends to get said cop dead. The same thing applies to Andy Ngo.
Tim talks about this in his Instagram rant on Andy, he quit doing in person reporting because his face was being recognized, and it became too dangerous.
Reporters can't file articles if they are dead or in the hospital with major injuries.
This is why news agencies have staff. He needs to hire "a guy" to infiltrate them or otherwise get up-close footage during riots if he wants to do that kind of reporting now.