To those people with a hammer and sickle in their bio:
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Communist states that mass-murdered their own people: All communist states mass-murder their own people.
Fascist states that mass-murdered their own people: Germany and Italy?
The truly repulsive bit is that if you point this out to twitter communists, some of them will celebrate the killings, they feel like that's sticking it to the capitalist oppressors.
Something to remember behind the false smiles and pretty words. These are people who would gleefully butcher entire demographics to advance the interests of their own. They're no more humanitarian then Genghis Khan.
With anonymous Internet comments you never know who's a real commie and who's a troll, but some of them are very convincing, and proud of it, and those are scary. I remember a conversation with one in YouTube comments. He seemed like a very friendly and reasonable "western European" type socialist at first. He tried to point out some of the "good things" that came out of the Soviet Union. However when confronted with the atrocities Stalin committed, he quickly shifted to deflection and lying to cover up the atrocities, then when pushed with evidence he asked for understanding: Stalin was overseeing a total conversion from a rural nation of farmers to a modern egalitarian industrial nation, and we can't judge him by today's standards. Under him "the soviets built great institutions of science and education, and employed millions of men and women".
When interrogated further, the commenter finally admitted that he thought that the millions killed in various massacres were "nothing but a statistic" and sometimes "people have to die for society to progress and move forward".
That polite leftist you're talking to, who claims they just want everyone to coexist and for the less privileged to be lifted up and given equity, is very likely an amoral sociopath.
I get what you're driving at, but please don't mention the First Great Khan in even the same breath as these deluded children. Temujin was a greater man than they could ever hope to be, and despite its death toll, the Mongol Empire probably did more for humanity than Communism.
I'm pretty sure there's something out there about Franco killing certain sections of the Spanish population via repression, similar to what Saddam did in Iraq. Then there's the free helicopter rides of Pinochet.
It pretty much boils down to, if the government is some version of Socialism, SOMEBODY is going to get beaten/tortured/killed by the state.
Pinochet has Mussolini numbers with only a few thousand helicopter rides.
Yes, always, but when it comes to having truly horrific body counts in your own country, that's a communist specialty.
Franco and Pinochet really don't compare to any of the communist dictators at all when it comes to that.
Very true.
There are no forms of govt that do not involve "some form of socialism".
What is limited liability if it is not the state seizing the property of one section of society and distributing it to another?
Mussolini only killed a few thousand of his people.
Yeah, as far as his own people go, he was probably no worse than Pinochet.
Socialism - State control of economy (means of production)
Marxist socialism - Worker's State control of economy
National Socialism - Racial State control of economy
Fascism/National Syndicalism - National State control of economy
https:// www. youtube. com/watch?v=eCkyWBPaTC8
National socialist and fascists is nationalist and allows private ownership whilst not allowing internationalist bankers and internationalist corporations to screw with the country.
The Party "allows" "private" ownership.
Upvote for Eric July. He's an Ancap so I assume people here would not agree with him a lot of the time, but he has mostly based takes.
the communist is less than the pedophile.