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NEW: Poland rejects inclusion of third gender in new EU identity cards (twitter.com)
posted 5 years ago by TheAndredal 5 years ago by TheAndredal +119 / -0
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– yamez 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Duolingo polish isn't great, but it'll get you to A2. The module has been abandoned by the original editors, so there isn't anything up to date with Duolingos newer module types like stories.

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– yamez 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

e-polish.eu if you are willing to pay. Duolingo if you are not.

I highly recommend buying the Routlidge essential grammars (Polish) if you are serious about learning the language because you will need a reference for the grammar. There 7 cases, and these cases are NOT regular. Unlike Latin or German, the declensions within each case are variable not just by grammatical gender but also the phonological construction and animacy of the word. For 3 of the cases, that translates to 2-3 variations per gender. Polish is fairly regular about its verbs, but the use of a verbal aspect means that each verb has two versions which may or may not resemble each other.

It takes about 1000 hours of study to advance to the C-level of the language. Memrise is a better app for mastering vocabulary than Duolingo, so that is the one I recommend.

There is good news, however: There are 40 million Poles and every single one of them will be delighted that you are making the effort and will enjoy talking with you. They will all provide assistance and happily correct mistakes while simultaneously acknowledging the difficulty of their language and bitching about it good naturedly. If you show that you care about the Polish language and culture, the number of friends you can get is huge. Also, there number of women who want to fuck you if you learn their language and have even a half-decent personality will skyrocket. If you need topics of conversation that facilitate this, here are a few effective ones:

  1. Russia is stupid
  2. Germany is stupid
  3. The Polish government is stupid
  4. the European Union is stupid (and simultaneously great)
  5. Warsaw is stupid (unless you are in Warsaw; if so, Krawkow is stupid)
  6. Other Poles are stupid (but better than Russians and Germans)
  7. The healthcare is horrid and your taxes are wasted.
  8. Polish culture is amazing, but also stupid.
  9. Ukraine is annoying, but nowwhere near as stupid as Russia
  10. Czechia is okay, but their language sounds retarded.

If non of those work and you aren't being fucked or making friends at the end of the conversation, apply two doses of vodka or local beer (I suggest Raciborskie) and try again. Repeat until successful.

If you want to start a fight between your new polish friends, try asking which type of pickle is best. Alternatively, ask them which political is better or whether homosexuality is "normal".

Sources: I live here, and I married a Pole.

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You will be very well equipped to learn Polish, then, since classical greek has a much more complex system of conjugation than Polish. Polish has mood (2) and aspect (2) as well as 4 tenses (past perfect, simple past, present and future) which makes it simultaneously much simpler than english and more frustrating. They used to have a pluperfect, but it is only used by academics and egg-heads now. The future tense is generally split between the use of the future tense of "to be" and an infinitive or a simple past tense to communicate perfective and imperfective future tense. Otherwise, verbs are very regular with only a few exceptions for spice.

The nouns, on the other hand....oh god, the nouns.

Eitherway, it's a very rewarding language and can be great fun to speak and mess around with. The poles do not appreciate puns very much and will look at you funny if you mess around with their language for fun, which is a shame since it's a lovely language for fucking around with. But occasionally you will meet a pole who thinks the same and the following conversation will be golden.

Look up the poem "Lokomotywa" by Julian Tuwim on youtube for an example of the amazing things you can do with Polish.

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– dagthegnome 27 points 5 years ago +27 / -0

How about reject identity cards full stop.

The pace at which we are sliding into outright tyranny has actually managed to surprise me.

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– EuroFishing 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

What are passports or divers licenses? ID cards already exist for those that have neither of the previous. Pretty sure this is just rejecting the ability to put 'tranny' as your gender.

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– yamez 23 points 5 years ago +23 / -0

In a number of EU countries, you are required to carry an ID card and present it to the authorities regardless of the situation. It's part of how they track people--you don't have the right to refuse to identify, that is a crime in and of itself. Drivers license isn't an ID, it's a demonstration that you have passed the certification necessary to drive. What's the certification process for merely existing?

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– Minarchist_Manlet 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Papers please.

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– dagthegnome 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

At least passports and drivers' licences actually serve a specific function. ID cards for the sake of ID cards are nothing but a badge of servitude.

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– dagthegnome 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Current EU policy is that they will be mandatory for everyone from 2023. They already are in 15 countries.

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– WhitePhoenix 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

holy shit that's scary

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– bootsy_two_scoops 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

So the EU has rejected the 4th through 37th genders?

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– Gizortnik 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

HAIL POLANIA

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– TheModernDaVinci 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Ah, a fellow 1920+ enthusiast I see.

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– theunruffledDD 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I think I'm qualified to be dictator of Poland for a day which is necessary to end the wuflu security theater.

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– Fact 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

"You're either whole, or not a Pole."

– Poland

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