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– DNA1 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I don't know if this is an unpopular stance but I agree, people should be held responsible for their actions. Still, it's at odds with the female abortion stance of "my body, my choice". Pick one.

Bill does address abortion as a conditional waiver barring some exceptions:

144 biological father's consent, the biological father owes no duty under this section, unless: 145 (a) the abortion is necessary to avert the death of the mother; or 146 (b) the mother was pregnant as a result of: 147 (i) rape, as described in Section 76-5-402; 148 (ii) rape of a child, as described in Section 76-5-402.1; or 149 (iii) incest, as described in Subsection 76-5-406(2)(j) or Section 76-7-102.

The definition of rape in § 76-5-402, per casetext:

(1) A person commits rape when the actor has sexual intercourse with another person without the victim's consent.

Excluding cases where statutory rape is easily provable / not in doubt, that definition is and has been prone to abuse. Then again, skimming the titles of Chapter 5, maybe this is standard legalese since 'sexual assault kits' are mentioned in later sub-sections.

Edit: I'll add that child support laws are bullshit and need an overhaul for men's rights. My comments are strictly on the granular topic.

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– SR388-SAX 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Still, it's at odds with the female abortion stance of "my body, my choice".

Nah, it's still 100% consistent. Her body, her choice. Your responsibility.

What, you thought they cared about men's consent?

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– DNA1 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

What, you thought they cared about men's consent?

No, or I wouldn't have pointed out the contradiction in the 1st place.

I was trying to say that I agree ideologically with the responsibility stance. Of course, in practice, men get fucked over when it comes to reproductive consequences as explicitly noted, which is how it's unreasonable.

Not dissimilar to child care, but that's effectively a lifetime of being screwed over.

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