The Protocols are quite an obvious forgery. As for the other things, I no longer doubt that political leaders are morally capable of something like 9/11 - Andrew Cuomo did five of them and barely anyone complained. Though whether they could practically pull it of is another matter.
"Forgery" simply means being copied from something else, it does not mean a fabrication or inherently false. Either way, you just need to see how much they apply to the modern day or not.
"Forgery" simply means being copied from something else
That's plagiarism.
it does not mean a fabrication or inherently false.
That is exactly what it means. A forged check is an attempt to drain someone else's bank account. A Vermeer forgery is a painting designed to cash in on Vermeer's reputation, by imitating his style, by imitating his subject matter, by using the paints and canvases he used, by aging the painting. "Forgery" is identity theft.
Let's turn this around:
Being a dedicated Americanist (i.e., a person who wants to undo the New Deal, and then institute new, capitalist reforms that work far better and are less intrusive), I want to destroy the reputation of leading Democrats. To destroy them on health care, I have the following:
In 1992, Hillary touted "single-payer" health care. Unlike the UK or CA NHS systems, doctors are not directly employed by the government, but all would be paid by the govt, so the distinction is moot.
In 1994, Billary was rewarded with a total rout in Congress by the GOP.
Obama was to the "public option" (AKA single-payer in slow motion) what Thomas Jefferson was to emancipation, offering more promises of it the further he was re-election or any political power. In Aug 2008, it was in his platform one, two. Even Politifact noted it: one, two.
Bernie Sanders wants "Medicare for All," which is just single-payer under another name.
Look at the links. These are all reputable sources (ha! Well, I suppose they were). All of the above is true.
Now, if I was a boring, normal person, I would just point out that every Democrat since 1992 has been cuckoo for single payer since forever, regardless of who you vote for. Bernie Bros who whine about Hillary (in between shooting up GOP congressmen) are really only whining that Hillary isn't deploying the Marines to force us all onto Medicare (and its massive, massive taxes) at gun point. And of course, BBs are racist, because they don't whine about Obama in the same way.
But, if I was a retarded freak, then I would forge something called, say, The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of the DNC, in which I would pack all the above evidence into words inserted into O'Billary Sander's mouths, and also say that fetuses are not sold for medical experiments, but actually ground into pâté, and that the Trump administration is about to bust Big Pâté, and that everyone should sit back, do nothing, and wait for the prophesied HYUGE REVEAL, instead of doing something insane like going out and getting politically involved.
"Forgery" simply means being copied from something else,
Yeah, from a work of fiction. Or did you really think that Napoleon III had conversations with Niccolo Machiavelli? It would explain why you have enough screws loose to make the Protocols your Bible.
does not mean a fabrication or inherently false.
ROFL. "Fake but accurate".
Even Joseph Goebbels realized that the Protocols were as fake as it gets. But he had a Ph.D. in literature when it meant something, while you are a witless Stormfag.
I'm just saying that the media's tactics to discredit something is to immediately call it a "forgery" which has nothing to do with the content itself, just that it was not the original source. You see this a lot with historical documents that people would rather not want to be acknowledged.
I haven't actually read it myself, just seen the knee-jerk response that happens when somebody isn't willing to outright dismiss it. And with the recent amount of things being "debunked" that tends to mean you should give it pause, but obviously not totally believe it because of that alone.
I'm just saying that the media's tactics to discredit something
If it were just the media saying it, people would be justified in not believing it one way or the other - as nothing that the media says should be believed on its say-so.
You see this a lot with historical documents that people would rather not want to be acknowledged.
Like what, the Donation of Constantine?
just seen the knee-jerk response that happens when somebody isn't willing to outright dismiss it.
It takes someone either completely ignorant of its contents, or quite stupid, to not 'dismiss' it.
And with the recent amount of things being "debunked" that tends to mean you should give it pause
It's one thing not to latch on to 'debunked' like some soyface, it's quite another to believe the most absurd things.
The Protocols are quite an obvious forgery. As for the other things, I no longer doubt that political leaders are morally capable of something like 9/11 - Andrew Cuomo did five of them and barely anyone complained. Though whether they could practically pull it of is another matter.
"Forgery" simply means being copied from something else, it does not mean a fabrication or inherently false. Either way, you just need to see how much they apply to the modern day or not.
That's plagiarism.
That is exactly what it means. A forged check is an attempt to drain someone else's bank account. A Vermeer forgery is a painting designed to cash in on Vermeer's reputation, by imitating his style, by imitating his subject matter, by using the paints and canvases he used, by aging the painting. "Forgery" is identity theft.
Let's turn this around:
Being a dedicated Americanist (i.e., a person who wants to undo the New Deal, and then institute new, capitalist reforms that work far better and are less intrusive), I want to destroy the reputation of leading Democrats. To destroy them on health care, I have the following:
Look at the links. These are all reputable sources (ha! Well, I suppose they were). All of the above is true.
Now, if I was a boring, normal person, I would just point out that every Democrat since 1992 has been cuckoo for single payer since forever, regardless of who you vote for. Bernie Bros who whine about Hillary (in between shooting up GOP congressmen) are really only whining that Hillary isn't deploying the Marines to force us all onto Medicare (and its massive, massive taxes) at gun point. And of course, BBs are racist, because they don't whine about Obama in the same way.
But, if I was a retarded freak, then I would forge something called, say, The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of the DNC, in which I would pack all the above evidence into words inserted into O'Billary Sander's mouths, and also say that fetuses are not sold for medical experiments, but actually ground into pâté, and that the Trump administration is about to bust Big Pâté, and that everyone should sit back, do nothing, and wait for the prophesied HYUGE REVEAL, instead of doing something insane like going out and getting politically involved.
Now do you see why we don't trust you?
Yeah, from a work of fiction. Or did you really think that Napoleon III had conversations with Niccolo Machiavelli? It would explain why you have enough screws loose to make the Protocols your Bible.
ROFL. "Fake but accurate".
Even Joseph Goebbels realized that the Protocols were as fake as it gets. But he had a Ph.D. in literature when it meant something, while you are a witless Stormfag.
I'm just saying that the media's tactics to discredit something is to immediately call it a "forgery" which has nothing to do with the content itself, just that it was not the original source. You see this a lot with historical documents that people would rather not want to be acknowledged.
I haven't actually read it myself, just seen the knee-jerk response that happens when somebody isn't willing to outright dismiss it. And with the recent amount of things being "debunked" that tends to mean you should give it pause, but obviously not totally believe it because of that alone.
If it were just the media saying it, people would be justified in not believing it one way or the other - as nothing that the media says should be believed on its say-so.
Like what, the Donation of Constantine?
It takes someone either completely ignorant of its contents, or quite stupid, to not 'dismiss' it.
It's one thing not to latch on to 'debunked' like some soyface, it's quite another to believe the most absurd things.