I've never really liked Seattle and I've been here for years. Like a lot of places it's had its moments of of worthiness, just not very many of them. And the climate is dismal.
But the core of downtown Seattle is now a complete third world shithole. The state lockdowns and city tolerance of criminality have removed the economic base and emptied nearly every retail business leaving the downtown core a wasteland of deserted destitution, urban filth, and vagrant zombies.
There ain't no kind of V shaped recovery gonna happen there, no fucking way.
When I moved there back in the day I was surprised at how dirty and full of graffiti even the "nice" parts of the city were. 3rd Ave was always a shithole: all the busses run through there, so it's always full of unsavory people. Back when I lived in the city I always used to hate waiting for a bus there late at night. I can't imagine what it's like now after the lockdowns and race riots.
Seattle is the only city I've ever been shouted at and called a nigger (I'm white) by a homeless(?) drunk. Just trying to wait for a bus to get back to my airbnb after TI8.
Been to a lot of cities, but Seattle was far and away the worst for vagrants, surprisingly beating out NYC
I remember I was visiting my dad up in Seattle back in 2004, and the thing that stands out to me the most about the city was just how many homeless people were zonked out in the gutters, shuffling around, or just sitting around. So many homeless. Things of course looked worse when I visited again in 2017 lol
The only time I've been to NYC was at the height of the Giuliani revival of the city right before 9/11, and I STILL got yelled at by homeless people in Times Square. I don't even want to imagine how bad it is now.
They'll probably raise corporate taxes, do fuck all with them as usual, and see said large, highly woke, pandering mega-businesses bleed out into the rest of the state or country.
Between that, defunding the police, and recent attempts at decriminalizing large swarths of crime, there's no way but to go up!
I'd visit Seattle once every 5 years or so, because a big chunk of my extended family on my dad's side lives there. As nice as it is seeing members of my family, I always thought the city itself sucked balls. Its just a rainier, more addict-filled, all around shittier version of Austin, and that's saying something given the overall worthlessness of Austin.
Some background: early last year the same network released their Seattle is Dying documentary that focused on the massive homeless and drug problem Seattle has. This year...well this year happened, and anyone who thought Seattle couldn't possibly get worse was shown that there really is no limit to the depravity and anarchy that can befall a city if you allow it.
I remember a commenter long ago on Half (spectemur if anyone remembers him: he was banned for being ahead of the curve on what's coming that we can't stop) said something like "At the end of the day humans are animals, and if allowed to do so we will revert to animalistic behavior." Seattle is living proof of that.
As opposed to the concept that hollywood (namely the Roddenberry-ites) tries to constantly sell, that if humans were to not have to "strive" any more, they'd turn their energies towards "arts and music". Which should be obvious is utter bullshit nonsense.
I almost don't want to know: at one point he said he was an Australian Federal police officer, and I don't know how someone with his views could in good conscience do that job in that country right now.
I'm not worried about him having to do something he disagrees with, he always struck me as the kind of person who could stomach it as long as it would allow him to pursue his goals in the long run. I'm more worried about the fact that he occasionally ran his mouth a bit too much - like admitting to be a fed in Australia, or having at least two kids - and how it could potentially fuck him over really hard.
I think he also mentioned somewhere that he was writing a book, and I'm curious about that, but I doubt we'll ever get to read it, even if he finishes it.
I was more thinking that I'd hate him to be one of these guys arresting grandma for sitting on the beach because she had a chair or being on the street one minute past curfew.
I worry less about him being fucked over by running his mouth, since it sounded like he lived in a pretty remote tight-knit community where if all else failed "problems" could be "solved" by digging holes in the ground.
Turn everything to shit, so that whatever nightmarish totalitarian dystopia they have planned will look good by comparison; by that time, everyone will have forgotten what was, it'll have been all scrubbed and "cancelled" away. In the meantime, you let Nature take its course to get rid of the worst of the worst.
I'm from the NorthWest, and watching the cities change has been weird. The grunge has always been there, but theres also a real soft heart inside of it. I once didn't have the cash to pay for the meal, and some random guy chewed me out, and paid for the meal. That's Seattle to me. Where you don't know if you just talked to a homeless guy or a millionaire.
Californians moved in, and made the place look a lot nicer. The graffiti was now works of art, and people talked about how into the scene they were. They also played politics, and took away the warmth. You couldn't walk over to a random guy, and just talk. That's also when they started to really make rules about where the homeless could be, and how they should be treated. Homeless shelters that took care of people, but looked like trash, were closed down and the city promised to make better places for them. It never happened, or happened in limits.
Tons of money went into making cool new things, and some of it actually happened. The joke goes that the marijuana money went up in smoke. The roads went to Pay to Play. The radio guy announcing traffic started casually mentioning riots and protests blocking traffic. Rent went up to super high rates. Most of the housing started being bulldozed and replaced by high rise apartments. We nicknamed the new folks Amazon Warrior Princesses.
If you live in the area, check out some of the old arcades. They still have the feel for Seattle back in the day. Shorty's had a parade of people singing and dancing when it had to move to a new building. That was Seattle of old. Honestly, Bremerton feels more like Seattle than Seattle does anymore.
I really liked Bremerton the handful of times I've been there. Though even that has its gentrified areas, especially around the waterfront area.
Last time I was in Georgetown it still had some of the older vibe. The power tool races being my canonical example. Strictly speaking they're pretty dangerous, especially when they deliberately crash them into each other or fly them off ramps. Not something someone would want near their million dollar home. Eventually someone's kid is going to get hit from some shrapnel, or a racer is going to fly off a ramp into the crowd, someone's going to sue, and that's going to be the end of that.
Part of me says Seattle deserved better, but the other part of me says they got exactly what they voted for. Either way it's not my problem anymore, as I haven't lived there for many years.
I've never really liked Seattle and I've been here for years. Like a lot of places it's had its moments of of worthiness, just not very many of them. And the climate is dismal.
But the core of downtown Seattle is now a complete third world shithole. The state lockdowns and city tolerance of criminality have removed the economic base and emptied nearly every retail business leaving the downtown core a wasteland of deserted destitution, urban filth, and vagrant zombies.
There ain't no kind of V shaped recovery gonna happen there, no fucking way.
When I moved there back in the day I was surprised at how dirty and full of graffiti even the "nice" parts of the city were. 3rd Ave was always a shithole: all the busses run through there, so it's always full of unsavory people. Back when I lived in the city I always used to hate waiting for a bus there late at night. I can't imagine what it's like now after the lockdowns and race riots.
Seattle is the only city I've ever been shouted at and called a nigger (I'm white) by a homeless(?) drunk. Just trying to wait for a bus to get back to my airbnb after TI8.
Been to a lot of cities, but Seattle was far and away the worst for vagrants, surprisingly beating out NYC
I remember I was visiting my dad up in Seattle back in 2004, and the thing that stands out to me the most about the city was just how many homeless people were zonked out in the gutters, shuffling around, or just sitting around. So many homeless. Things of course looked worse when I visited again in 2017 lol
The only time I've been to NYC was at the height of the Giuliani revival of the city right before 9/11, and I STILL got yelled at by homeless people in Times Square. I don't even want to imagine how bad it is now.
They'll probably raise corporate taxes, do fuck all with them as usual, and see said large, highly woke, pandering mega-businesses bleed out into the rest of the state or country.
Between that, defunding the police, and recent attempts at decriminalizing large swarths of crime, there's no way but to go up!
I'd visit Seattle once every 5 years or so, because a big chunk of my extended family on my dad's side lives there. As nice as it is seeing members of my family, I always thought the city itself sucked balls. Its just a rainier, more addict-filled, all around shittier version of Austin, and that's saying something given the overall worthlessness of Austin.
Some background: early last year the same network released their Seattle is Dying documentary that focused on the massive homeless and drug problem Seattle has. This year...well this year happened, and anyone who thought Seattle couldn't possibly get worse was shown that there really is no limit to the depravity and anarchy that can befall a city if you allow it.
I remember a commenter long ago on Half (spectemur if anyone remembers him: he was banned for being ahead of the curve on what's coming that we can't stop) said something like "At the end of the day humans are animals, and if allowed to do so we will revert to animalistic behavior." Seattle is living proof of that.
As opposed to the concept that hollywood (namely the Roddenberry-ites) tries to constantly sell, that if humans were to not have to "strive" any more, they'd turn their energies towards "arts and music". Which should be obvious is utter bullshit nonsense.
News media is now performance art, so.
Oh man, spectemur. I wonder what he's doing now, he really had some incredibly good takes on things.
I almost don't want to know: at one point he said he was an Australian Federal police officer, and I don't know how someone with his views could in good conscience do that job in that country right now.
Yeah, I saw him powerlevel once too.
I'm not worried about him having to do something he disagrees with, he always struck me as the kind of person who could stomach it as long as it would allow him to pursue his goals in the long run. I'm more worried about the fact that he occasionally ran his mouth a bit too much - like admitting to be a fed in Australia, or having at least two kids - and how it could potentially fuck him over really hard.
I think he also mentioned somewhere that he was writing a book, and I'm curious about that, but I doubt we'll ever get to read it, even if he finishes it.
I was more thinking that I'd hate him to be one of these guys arresting grandma for sitting on the beach because she had a chair or being on the street one minute past curfew.
I worry less about him being fucked over by running his mouth, since it sounded like he lived in a pretty remote tight-knit community where if all else failed "problems" could be "solved" by digging holes in the ground.
Land of CHAZ, Biden and mealworm farms.
Shame.
Turn everything to shit, so that whatever nightmarish totalitarian dystopia they have planned will look good by comparison; by that time, everyone will have forgotten what was, it'll have been all scrubbed and "cancelled" away. In the meantime, you let Nature take its course to get rid of the worst of the worst.
I'm from the NorthWest, and watching the cities change has been weird. The grunge has always been there, but theres also a real soft heart inside of it. I once didn't have the cash to pay for the meal, and some random guy chewed me out, and paid for the meal. That's Seattle to me. Where you don't know if you just talked to a homeless guy or a millionaire.
Californians moved in, and made the place look a lot nicer. The graffiti was now works of art, and people talked about how into the scene they were. They also played politics, and took away the warmth. You couldn't walk over to a random guy, and just talk. That's also when they started to really make rules about where the homeless could be, and how they should be treated. Homeless shelters that took care of people, but looked like trash, were closed down and the city promised to make better places for them. It never happened, or happened in limits.
Tons of money went into making cool new things, and some of it actually happened. The joke goes that the marijuana money went up in smoke. The roads went to Pay to Play. The radio guy announcing traffic started casually mentioning riots and protests blocking traffic. Rent went up to super high rates. Most of the housing started being bulldozed and replaced by high rise apartments. We nicknamed the new folks Amazon Warrior Princesses.
If you live in the area, check out some of the old arcades. They still have the feel for Seattle back in the day. Shorty's had a parade of people singing and dancing when it had to move to a new building. That was Seattle of old. Honestly, Bremerton feels more like Seattle than Seattle does anymore.
It's hard to watch is what I am saying.
I really liked Bremerton the handful of times I've been there. Though even that has its gentrified areas, especially around the waterfront area.
Last time I was in Georgetown it still had some of the older vibe. The power tool races being my canonical example. Strictly speaking they're pretty dangerous, especially when they deliberately crash them into each other or fly them off ramps. Not something someone would want near their million dollar home. Eventually someone's kid is going to get hit from some shrapnel, or a racer is going to fly off a ramp into the crowd, someone's going to sue, and that's going to be the end of that.
Part of me says Seattle deserved better, but the other part of me says they got exactly what they voted for. Either way it's not my problem anymore, as I haven't lived there for many years.
I honestly don't know if the locals voted for it, or the californians did.