It's just amazing to me how outlandish you find the suggestion, while at the same time, being a victim of these systems. You also pretty much have open disdain for many groups of people.
You're very troubled and nobody took care of you. I'm sorry you went through that and you've been left fucked up because of it.
so much of your initial comment whining about yourself.
Exactly how else am I going to relate to you that public education is not well equipped to care for or protect kids with mental disabilities?
I also linked an article about an autistic girl that was bullied to death by students and teachers. The only thing is, I'm a grown man. All that happened to me was ancient history. I have no reason to lie about the system and no lawsuits pending. The point I'm making by sharing my own experience and also pointing to the experience of others is that it wasn't just me.
I can also go on to show you articles about autistic people being kept in cages and treated as if they're possessed by demons. You should see the shit Catholics, Mormons, scientologists and jehovah's witnesses do to us. Did you know the type of therapy banned from being used against gays, gay conversion therapy based on ABA, is also the leading gold star therapy recommended for autistic kids? Despite it increasing suicide rates?
You can keep naming examples of "one time, in a random unrelated and completely different scenario someone LIED" but you've yet to do anything but that whataboutism and hope it would accomplish something. I've also seen Men lie about girlfriends being crazy, does that mean I should accept that everytime a man claims one is I believe he is the actual crazy one?
You were acting as if the expulsion was proof of anything. I'm saying, the institution is corrupt and inept. Expulsion is just proof of expulsion and likely very little else.
You can't both understand American public education is garbage and unfair to many types of students... and then take the rejection seal of disapproval and treat it as likely valid. There are so many fucking ways to game the system and here you are thinking they actually did their due-diligence. What a damn laugh. Schools are FAMOUS for having terrible internal processes all across the country, and always taking the easy way out or the way out least likely to cause waves in the community.
But because we disagree, you're willing to look away.
You are asking me to believe a hypothetical because it fits what you want this story to be, based on seemingly you just really identifying with a victim story you made up.
No. I'm saying that the alternatives are more likely and more easily possible then you believe. We know for a fact that it is common behavior for people to false flag a social pariah. So much so I can cite the fucking goddamn bible having to have a commandment against baring false witness. Rittenhouse, mass reporting, fucking reddit mods, false rape allegations against SCOTUS nominees. False rape allegations against men in college. How common does this shit gotta be before you stop thinking it is that rare?
We've had that as a social problem since we were herding goats, my dude, and we never shook the habit.
If you had any other evidence to support anything, I'd not be opposed to believing it happened.
The students aren't even being named by the district. We're both pissing in the wind, but we both know it's not normal to stab someone over nuggies. You think it's some kind of inherent racial inferiority thing and keep ascribing it to being a race and culture thing. I don't share that view.
You just need to be open to the fact that the story might be something else besides "nigs gonna nig."
Actually, that is the real reason to be against female. The transmafia is aware that refusing biology (female) can't last forever.
"I'm attracted to females" asserts biology, and rejects gender. "Female sports" asserts biology, and rejects gender.
The real reason to hate "female" is trans feminists prepping for when the pendulum swings back.
Again. Rittenhouse. Despite having goddamn video, people still tried.
"Turning all against one isn't all that hard to do." as the offspring song goes. Wanna get someone expelled? Claim, repeatedly, they threatened to shoot people or bring a bomb. Same people mass report on youtube or twitter.
If your response to people you are choosing to interact with being mean to you is to murder them, you have ceased to have victimhood.
Seems like a strawman to say this was just "being mean", if she was going to stab or shoot someone just for being mean... it would've happened before being expelled or dropping out.
The claim is self defense. If she was in the middle of a beat down circle, I don't blame her for pulling a knife and using it. That's textbook self defense. ESPECIALLY if it was a textbook "nigger"-style gang beatdown, as you specifically might call it.
Rittenhouse was the suspect, because he was the one being prosecuted even if he had fully valid self defense claims.
Which is my point. I'm calling her the victim just like I called Rittenhouse a victim. When you feel compelled to use the same terminology and framing as the state, you're losing the battle to begin with. I didn't misspeak earlier, or mix up victim and offender. I said it how I meant it from my perspective which is that the one being prosecuted right now actually did act in self defense.
It's just as valid for me to say you're projecting your life experiences and assuming it's more hoodrattery.
Mostly because it was the suspect who was expelled, not the victim
Depends how you see it. The "suspect" claims the stabbing was done out of self defense. They called Kyle Rittenhouse the suspect, did they not?
The link I shared in the linked comment is to show that it isn't just my bad experience. There are a LOT of fucking kids who share my experience. Who are going through it right now. It's a goddamn shame the only way they get seen as abused is if they off themselves in spectacular fashion. Normal kids don't shank people over nuggies. Normal kids don't get expelled. This wasn't a normal kid, this was a kid that fell through the cracks and never got help.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/16c2WCNYD2/x/c/4TwSiLRqPQM
See my comment there.
I had my nose broken, I was the only one pouring blood and sporting lumps and bruises. I had more than 10 people involved in the gang beating and they gave me the same in school suspension they gave the 10 kids because the 10 kids claimed I called them all nigger.
This was despite having had my IQ tested by the school district. They were mystified I could have a gifted level IQ, yet I was skipping school constantly and failing to keep up. I wasn't going to school because of personal safety concerns. On what fucking planet is a gifted kid going to look at 10 people and think "Yeah I can take them. All at the same time. Let me just say the trigger word!"
There's only so many times you can have your face broken and not have the school care because you're the retard autistic, before you either violently snap or get truancy so high your parents remove you themselves.
Bullies know how to hurt people without getting caught. Spergs like myself just do it because we're backed into a corner and we get caught because we don't have practice at it.
My records said I was an aggressive crier, manipulative, and that I had a history of aggression. I got beaten up every single year in school, multiple times, and only hit back fucking twice. Yet I was the aggressive one. Wish I could go back in time and deck more of those clowns.
I don't think this story is what it says on the tin, frankly.
The victim was expelled. Had "anger issues" and stuff like that. Yet still maintained contact with groups of public school children she had been going to school with previously.
I'm going to bet she had 1 real friend in that entire circle and didn't have the social wherewithal to know the rest just enjoyed having her around to make fun of. You wouldn't single out and attack someone over some fucking nuggy sauce unless you felt like you wouldn't be judged poorly by the friend group for it.
Sounds like an often victimized autistic child that the system didn't help because keeping the other little fuckers in line is harder than letting 1 autistic kid drop out. (Autistic kids have high dropout rates in general, even when they get good grades, for this very reason. Teachers would rather ignore or take part in bullying to get rid of one easy target than ask Tyrone and Patrick to behave themselves.)
Here's an example. Teachers really do join in on this shit. I am autistic myself and also got bullied out of school. The teachers regularly took part in my humiliation and found my "tattle telling"(asking them to do their job) was often taken as a bigger issue than the fact that you had physically abusive people leaving bruises on other people. Things like "Well since YOU keep getting injured, I'll put YOU at the front of the class. All by yourself. A row away from everyone else."
My records which I secured as an adult said I have "aggressive crying", that it was a means of trying to manipulate and bully others.
Been a furry for 17 years.
Furry species have stereotypes based either on mythology, or the people who tend to choose them. So it's a bit like a self-selected "pronouns in the bio" type red flag when someone makes their own furry personal.
You are 100% spot on with dragons. If someone has to be a dragon, 99% of the time they have some kind of personality disorder. There's a reason they have to be a tough, treasure having, mythological, magical, nation threatening identity.
One of the chicks I pulled away from a dragon "master" (in the BDSM sense) went fucking nutbars over it and was sending her messages like "I NEED YOUR WOMB!" (they both had a breeding kink.) But seriously. This dude thought saying that was like holding up a stereo, such as is often memed of the "Say anything" movie.
Well, as I stated, nobody is going to win if they sue the bank for hosting the accounts of this company but that doesn't remove the legal cost of defending against these lawsuits. These lawsuits will also raise the premium of the bank's legal insurance. I also imagine a lot of family members of elderly people initiate chargebacks against Mercola. When a single company causes such a nexus of issues that cost the bank money, they're prone to jettison the client.
I don't agree with this happening. That said, I don't think it is the covid stuff alone that brought this on. Mercola is a snake oil salesmen of the highest caliber and he has been to court many times because of it. I've had family members die while using his unorthodox holistic bullshit that was costing as much if not more than the copay of normal cancer care. I'd imagine that Mercola is a constant litigation risk.
Mercola also knows how to play the game. If he can turn it into a culture war and censorship issue, he comes out on top and he'll have more traffic from fat, unhealthy, chain smoking boomers than ever before.
Still. I don't agree with it happening. Nobody is going to sue the bank and win because of him holding an account there.
Also... Not exactly on a crusade? Shitposting about some inconsequential moderation weirdness does not equate to really giving a shit. I'm bored and I have free time tonight.
Just because you're consumed with your personal politics doesn't mean everyone else is.
I said you trying to characterize TheImp as carrying on GamerGate's legacy
So basically, imagining things and then swinging at them. The way you construe things is so combative. Move out of your aggro phase, it isn't good for your mental health.
I already told you. I believe Dom doesn't consider them an identity at all so they get no R16. He seems to consider identity to be about bio-essential things like race and sex. If you want clarification, ping him.
R16 isn't written like that. Failure of management.
They sound retarded. Public policy reflects what people in power want, not the masses. Politicians do what their donors want, not their voters. Culture gets shaped by the powerful.
You can think it is retarded. It's still a chain of infectious ideas spreading outward. Your couch surfing intellectuals like Marx and Bernie find a millionaire or a billionaire to be a pet of, and spread their bullshit. It's always been that way. Then convince a segment of the public to want it, and that segment convinces even more of the public to want it. It doesn't change the fact they have convinced a large swath of the public to want it. Exactly as I said, stand alone complex that leads to mass adoption and new policy. It goes private->public->government. Always.
I'm sorry you can't see a forest and trees simultaneously.
TheImp and others can and have gotten away with the same sort of thing WRT to women. Dom's latest Imp bans are a move toward equal enforcement, not away from it.
Your opinion. I don't share it. I don't have to fail to understand your opinion to disagree with you. You're not the smartest person in the room and your ego is very invested here.
(neither am I, but I'm not displaying the ego here. Imagine downvoting every single reply on .win as if internet points matter. Lol.)
Were you on crack at the time because you seem to be confused about what happened?
A lot was going on at the time. Everything from the SPJ society issues, to the GJP lists, to me actually trying to make change at IGDA meetings IRL... I don't even trust that your estimation of what I think happened is remotely close to what I actually think happened... as you really do seem to warp reality on the journey to internalize what others are saying.
But it is worth your time to use your otherwise mostly dormant account to defend a mentally ill retard. Again, there is nothing stopping you from being against R16 as a whole. Feel free to take that angle. You won't do that and have defended Rumble's censorship. Tell us what your real reason for defending TheImp so vigorously is. Common enemies, right?
You really do invest too much into internet fights. That you'd go history diving on someone else's profile and also ignore the blatant argument with a holocaust denier, and still act like you need the existence of that shit pointed out... lol.
As far as Rumble goes? Pragmatism. Alternatives have to exist to mount resistance or rebellion towards the intellectual hegemony. You can disagree with the special pleading if you want, because I am aware it is special pleading... but don't sit here and act like we accomplish much of anything by having R16 here. It's not like we'll ever become a driver of speech on iOS or the google play store. We don't have our domain registration pulled on a monthly basis. We're not 🥝👩🌾.
TheImp has nothing to do with OG GamerGate. He is a new fag. The feminists at the heart of GamerGate like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian are overwhelmingly pro-trans. Some of them even are trans like Wu and Nick Nyberg. The idea that a tranny-lover who sounds just like them whining about "TERFs" all day, is somehow "carrying on the legacy of GamerGate" is beyond farcical.
Where did I ever say those people were anti-trans? The only thing I had to say about transsexuals is that they're a protected class and the R16 protection doesn't seem to apply to them the same way it seems to apply for women. It is easier to trip an R16 ban for talking shit about women as a class then it is to talk shit about trannies as a class.
Does that clarification help you stop lashing out or do you need to take a nap first?
Do you mean the "Western cultured" women in charge of the ADL? Public opinion has little to do with public policy, assuming for arguments sake that your claim is even correct.
Public policy is downstream from culture. Every political science persona with any scrap of correctness or notoriety has pointed this out. The stand alone complex comes before organization and indoctrination, not the inverse.
These claims are correct. Nobody in academia disputes these findings. If anything, they use the findings to further vilify straight white males for being all the isms and ists. Gleefully. Rather than refute.
I didn't move any goal posts. Like I said, Dom would let you say the same things about women that they are saying about Jews there, but that's not the type of comment TheImp was banned for.
You acted like it wasn't real and you can't get away with it. Then you pretty much said my examples were valid examples except for the fact that the comments are made with a wink and a nod. You condoned it because it was done in a sly way. Frankly, that's bullshit.
I don't think Dom should be banning anybody for R16 is my main contention, short of it being a risk to this site being shut down. Even that aside, no, Imp is clearly under more scrutiny simply by virtue of being himself and having a history of previous bans. I've seen plenty of his commentary. He's absolutely harmless. Like seriously, do you ever think you can put "Proud supporter of gamergate" and get hired by most of the fortune 500? Definitely not. So who are we trying to impress?
Either way, equal enforcement... clever wording and dogwhistles aside, or no enforcement. Picking winners and losers isn't a good look.
Do what I do. Argue with dumb viewpoints, or move on.
You are free to talk about that stuff, and plenty of people do without getting banned. What is it with your grandstanding, histrionic bullshit? You barely even participate here.
What should it matter? It's not worth my time to live here like some people. I was there for week 1 of gamergate. For the subreddit's original incarnation too. Toasted my gaming developer career trying to resist woke's take over IRL. I've bled enough, thanks.
But anyway, if you are worried about participation... maybe not try to gatekeep people based upon the activity level you think is appropriate? :)
or perhaps more likely, have common enemies"
You coached your language, congratulations, that somehow makes you immune from the obvious accusations you were making. Next you'll tell me there is a meaningful difference when you use a hard R.
And there we have it. You're the anti here so everyone else must be a fan of his. News flash. Gamergate happened because of feminism and feminism is built upon pandering to western women. How that association ever broke down for you is amazing to me. Free speech itself is in endangered most by western cultured women. This is the statistical reality when that group is the one that most often responds on surveys that hatespeech should be illegal and offending people should be criminal.
You go from "WHeRe?! ThAT DoESn'T HAppEN!!11" to "Oh yeah, that's okay, because they're coy about it."
Get fucking real. Everything is just a 1-step-removed deflection or delaying tactics where you play dumb and shuffle the goal post. Like, I've literally had an argument on KIA2 in the last 2 weeks about the holocaust being real with someone who was insistent it was all fake. Insisting it was nothing more than internment work camps. For fuck sake. It runs rampant. But holy god don't anyone dare point out that our culture is treating western women better than western men. Even with the suicide statistics, homelessness statistics and family court statistics there to back it up. Or literally gendered views on things like rape requiring a dick to commit. Or the sentencing gap on pedophilia. God forbid. That makes me an imp dick rider!
Yeah, I have read it. He does to the headlines what the journalist class does to the headlines whenever attacking straight white males. Gamergate was always the side that was saying if you don't like it, have a thick skin, stop using relational aggression via moderation, and move the fuck on. Instead, we're moderating to protect precious feelings. I am more annoyed by imp haters than imp.
Where? Dom has a long history of moderating anti-Jewish stuff much more strictly than he does anti-woman stuff.
Having a history of that isn't what is objectionable, nor is having blindspots. It's that imp is weaksauce and moderating that crap just comes off as thin-skinned like the lefties and being on reddit. I thought we were here because we don't need mommy moderator. I've run into 14 year olds who're more offensive and bigger credible threats.
Anyway.
Dude. It's clear as day. There's a ton of "don't name the jew" stormf*g wink and nods in many front page topics. Or comments about last names, noses and Hypens. I mean, we all know what the fuck that means. Is it just not bannable as long as you don't say jew or jewish? Because that is what it looks like to me. Go look at the witcher casting director topic. There's a whole comment chain dancing around accusing her of being jewish and part of some jewish conspiracy. (I don't think that, myself. I'm just pointing out, it's there, and I don't see a chain of bans and deleted comments.)
Plenty more persists and is above the level of Imp and his commentary on western women. It shouldn't be a crime to state the truth if it can be demonstrated with statistics. Even if it is stated in a bombastic manner. After all, feminists can state men live to hunt women... despite the fact that men typically homicide other men and will avoid killing women in most cases. Like, I'm sorry, but it's cucked behavior. It's like republicans that worry about what the liberal newspapers will say about them. Unless the .win host has contacted dom and said "delete this or else" we shouldn't be circular firing squad. We're all misogynists here according to outside press. Even fox news would call us a den of incels and sexists. Who are we trying to impress?
I don't think he considers trans to be an identity at all.
It is more of an identity than western women. Which btw, is a cultural designation, not a sex designation.
The state wants the victim to self support because it is cheaper for the state. Since you can't tell that class of people to be responsible for themselves, as it is political suicide and they are to be infantilized at every turn, the next best thing is to mass house them as prisoners. I imagine 10 women to a cellblock is cheaper than putting each of them up in a halfway home with a food benefits card.
So the choices are put up with it, or do a murder. Minimizing the sentence for such is how they can make it feasible.
We have holocaust deniers on the board, people regularly make references to all black people being criminal and there's no shortage of serious comments about transsexuals.
I'd expect Dom to draw the line at those, not western women. I guess the holy cow of feminism has left us all scarred with some innate level of programming. All the while, on most social media, they can say whatever they want about men and then proclaim "Well, if you're not like that, you shouldn't be offended! Clearly we are only talking about the bad men!"
I'd have to feel there was a point to debating you. You act like a feral animal, why would I continue to debate having recognized this? All you are is well-tread stereotypes and preconceived notions.