TheImp has nothing to do with OG GamerGate. He is a new fag. The feminists at the heart of GamerGate like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian are overwhelmingly pro-trans. Some of them even are trans like Wu and Nick Nyberg. The idea that a tranny-lover who sounds just like them whining about "TERFs" all day, is somehow "carrying on the legacy of GamerGate" is beyond farcical.
Where did I ever say those people were anti-trans? The only thing I had to say about transsexuals is that they're a protected class and the R16 protection doesn't seem to apply to them the same way it seems to apply for women. It is easier to trip an R16 ban for talking shit about women as a class then it is to talk shit about trannies as a class.
Does that clarification help you stop lashing out or do you need to take a nap first?
Do you mean the "Western cultured" women in charge of the ADL? Public opinion has little to do with public policy, assuming for arguments sake that your claim is even correct.
Public policy is downstream from culture. Every political science persona with any scrap of correctness or notoriety has pointed this out. The stand alone complex comes before organization and indoctrination, not the inverse.
These claims are correct. Nobody in academia disputes these findings. If anything, they use the findings to further vilify straight white males for being all the isms and ists. Gleefully. Rather than refute.
I didn't move any goal posts. Like I said, Dom would let you say the same things about women that they are saying about Jews there, but that's not the type of comment TheImp was banned for.
You acted like it wasn't real and you can't get away with it. Then you pretty much said my examples were valid examples except for the fact that the comments are made with a wink and a nod. You condoned it because it was done in a sly way. Frankly, that's bullshit.
I don't think Dom should be banning anybody for R16 is my main contention, short of it being a risk to this site being shut down. Even that aside, no, Imp is clearly under more scrutiny simply by virtue of being himself and having a history of previous bans. I've seen plenty of his commentary. He's absolutely harmless. Like seriously, do you ever think you can put "Proud supporter of gamergate" and get hired by most of the fortune 500? Definitely not. So who are we trying to impress?
Either way, equal enforcement... clever wording and dogwhistles aside, or no enforcement. Picking winners and losers isn't a good look.
Do what I do. Argue with dumb viewpoints, or move on.
You are free to talk about that stuff, and plenty of people do without getting banned. What is it with your grandstanding, histrionic bullshit? You barely even participate here.
What should it matter? It's not worth my time to live here like some people. I was there for week 1 of gamergate. For the subreddit's original incarnation too. Toasted my gaming developer career trying to resist woke's take over IRL. I've bled enough, thanks.
But anyway, if you are worried about participation... maybe not try to gatekeep people based upon the activity level you think is appropriate? :)
or perhaps more likely, have common enemies"
You coached your language, congratulations, that somehow makes you immune from the obvious accusations you were making. Next you'll tell me there is a meaningful difference when you use a hard R.
Where did I ever say those people were anti-trans?
I never said you did. I said you trying to characterize TheImp as carrying on GamerGate's legacy was bullshit and used the trans thing as part of the evidence. Learn to read.
It is easier to trip an R16 ban for talking shit about women as a class then it is to talk shit about trannies as a class.
I already told you. I believe Dom doesn't consider them an identity at all so they get no R16. He seems to consider identity to be about bio-essential things like race and sex. If you want clarification, ping him.
Public policy is downstream from culture. Every political science persona with any scrap of correctness or notoriety has pointed this out.
They sound retarded. Public policy reflects what people in power want, not the masses. Politicians do what their donors want, not their voters. Culture gets shaped by the powerful.
You acted like it wasn't real and you can't get away with it.
Again, learn to read. I said Dom moderated that stuff more strictly compared to the shit he let Imp get away with. Look at the way Dom bans usage of the Z-word (see the welcome ashore sticky thread's R16 description). That would be like banning TheImp for mentioning feminism, but he never has.
Either way, equal enforcement... clever wording and dogwhistles aside, or no enforcement.
TheImp and others can and have gotten away with the same sort of thing WRT to women. Dom's latest Imp bans are a move toward equal enforcement, not away from it.
I was there for week 1 of gamergate. For the subreddit's original incarnation too.
Were you on crack at the time because you seem to be confused about what happened?
It's not worth my time to live here like some people.
But it is worth your time to use your otherwise mostly dormant account to defend a mentally ill retard. Again, there is nothing stopping you from being against R16 as a whole. Feel free to take that angle. You won't do that and have defended Rumble's censorship. Tell us what your real reason for defending TheImp so vigorously is. Common enemies, right?
I said you trying to characterize TheImp as carrying on GamerGate's legacy
So basically, imagining things and then swinging at them. The way you construe things is so combative. Move out of your aggro phase, it isn't good for your mental health.
I already told you. I believe Dom doesn't consider them an identity at all so they get no R16. He seems to consider identity to be about bio-essential things like race and sex. If you want clarification, ping him.
R16 isn't written like that. Failure of management.
They sound retarded. Public policy reflects what people in power want, not the masses. Politicians do what their donors want, not their voters. Culture gets shaped by the powerful.
You can think it is retarded. It's still a chain of infectious ideas spreading outward. Your couch surfing intellectuals like Marx and Bernie find a millionaire or a billionaire to be a pet of, and spread their bullshit. It's always been that way. Then convince a segment of the public to want it, and that segment convinces even more of the public to want it. It doesn't change the fact they have convinced a large swath of the public to want it. Exactly as I said, stand alone complex that leads to mass adoption and new policy. It goes private->public->government. Always.
I'm sorry you can't see a forest and trees simultaneously.
TheImp and others can and have gotten away with the same sort of thing WRT to women. Dom's latest Imp bans are a move toward equal enforcement, not away from it.
Your opinion. I don't share it. I don't have to fail to understand your opinion to disagree with you. You're not the smartest person in the room and your ego is very invested here.
(neither am I, but I'm not displaying the ego here. Imagine downvoting every single reply on .win as if internet points matter. Lol.)
Were you on crack at the time because you seem to be confused about what happened?
A lot was going on at the time. Everything from the SPJ society issues, to the GJP lists, to me actually trying to make change at IGDA meetings IRL... I don't even trust that your estimation of what I think happened is remotely close to what I actually think happened... as you really do seem to warp reality on the journey to internalize what others are saying.
But it is worth your time to use your otherwise mostly dormant account to defend a mentally ill retard. Again, there is nothing stopping you from being against R16 as a whole. Feel free to take that angle. You won't do that and have defended Rumble's censorship. Tell us what your real reason for defending TheImp so vigorously is. Common enemies, right?
You really do invest too much into internet fights. That you'd go history diving on someone else's profile and also ignore the blatant argument with a holocaust denier, and still act like you need the existence of that shit pointed out... lol.
As far as Rumble goes? Pragmatism. Alternatives have to exist to mount resistance or rebellion towards the intellectual hegemony. You can disagree with the special pleading if you want, because I am aware it is special pleading... but don't sit here and act like we accomplish much of anything by having R16 here. It's not like we'll ever become a driver of speech on iOS or the google play store. We don't have our domain registration pulled on a monthly basis. We're not 🥝👩🌾.
I don't believe you. You cheered on Rumble's censorship because it was being done to someone who criticizes Jews and (sort of) denied the Holobunga. There is nothing principled about that or your current crusade. You aren't fooling me.
Ah so that's what this is about, lmao. Pretty wild being a tradcuck, and a skinhead. I mean, if you want to make wild assumptions about me then I can make wild assumptions about you.
Also... Not exactly on a crusade? Shitposting about some inconsequential moderation weirdness does not equate to really giving a shit. I'm bored and I have free time tonight.
Just because you're consumed with your personal politics doesn't mean everyone else is.
Where did I ever say those people were anti-trans? The only thing I had to say about transsexuals is that they're a protected class and the R16 protection doesn't seem to apply to them the same way it seems to apply for women. It is easier to trip an R16 ban for talking shit about women as a class then it is to talk shit about trannies as a class.
Does that clarification help you stop lashing out or do you need to take a nap first?
Public policy is downstream from culture. Every political science persona with any scrap of correctness or notoriety has pointed this out. The stand alone complex comes before organization and indoctrination, not the inverse.
These claims are correct. Nobody in academia disputes these findings. If anything, they use the findings to further vilify straight white males for being all the isms and ists. Gleefully. Rather than refute.
You acted like it wasn't real and you can't get away with it. Then you pretty much said my examples were valid examples except for the fact that the comments are made with a wink and a nod. You condoned it because it was done in a sly way. Frankly, that's bullshit.
I don't think Dom should be banning anybody for R16 is my main contention, short of it being a risk to this site being shut down. Even that aside, no, Imp is clearly under more scrutiny simply by virtue of being himself and having a history of previous bans. I've seen plenty of his commentary. He's absolutely harmless. Like seriously, do you ever think you can put "Proud supporter of gamergate" and get hired by most of the fortune 500? Definitely not. So who are we trying to impress?
Either way, equal enforcement... clever wording and dogwhistles aside, or no enforcement. Picking winners and losers isn't a good look.
Do what I do. Argue with dumb viewpoints, or move on.
What should it matter? It's not worth my time to live here like some people. I was there for week 1 of gamergate. For the subreddit's original incarnation too. Toasted my gaming developer career trying to resist woke's take over IRL. I've bled enough, thanks.
But anyway, if you are worried about participation... maybe not try to gatekeep people based upon the activity level you think is appropriate? :)
You coached your language, congratulations, that somehow makes you immune from the obvious accusations you were making. Next you'll tell me there is a meaningful difference when you use a hard R.
I never said you did. I said you trying to characterize TheImp as carrying on GamerGate's legacy was bullshit and used the trans thing as part of the evidence. Learn to read.
I already told you. I believe Dom doesn't consider them an identity at all so they get no R16. He seems to consider identity to be about bio-essential things like race and sex. If you want clarification, ping him.
They sound retarded. Public policy reflects what people in power want, not the masses. Politicians do what their donors want, not their voters. Culture gets shaped by the powerful.
Again, learn to read. I said Dom moderated that stuff more strictly compared to the shit he let Imp get away with. Look at the way Dom bans usage of the Z-word (see the welcome ashore sticky thread's R16 description). That would be like banning TheImp for mentioning feminism, but he never has.
TheImp and others can and have gotten away with the same sort of thing WRT to women. Dom's latest Imp bans are a move toward equal enforcement, not away from it.
Were you on crack at the time because you seem to be confused about what happened?
But it is worth your time to use your otherwise mostly dormant account to defend a mentally ill retard. Again, there is nothing stopping you from being against R16 as a whole. Feel free to take that angle. You won't do that and have defended Rumble's censorship. Tell us what your real reason for defending TheImp so vigorously is. Common enemies, right?
So basically, imagining things and then swinging at them. The way you construe things is so combative. Move out of your aggro phase, it isn't good for your mental health.
R16 isn't written like that. Failure of management.
You can think it is retarded. It's still a chain of infectious ideas spreading outward. Your couch surfing intellectuals like Marx and Bernie find a millionaire or a billionaire to be a pet of, and spread their bullshit. It's always been that way. Then convince a segment of the public to want it, and that segment convinces even more of the public to want it. It doesn't change the fact they have convinced a large swath of the public to want it. Exactly as I said, stand alone complex that leads to mass adoption and new policy. It goes private->public->government. Always.
I'm sorry you can't see a forest and trees simultaneously.
Your opinion. I don't share it. I don't have to fail to understand your opinion to disagree with you. You're not the smartest person in the room and your ego is very invested here.
(neither am I, but I'm not displaying the ego here. Imagine downvoting every single reply on .win as if internet points matter. Lol.)
A lot was going on at the time. Everything from the SPJ society issues, to the GJP lists, to me actually trying to make change at IGDA meetings IRL... I don't even trust that your estimation of what I think happened is remotely close to what I actually think happened... as you really do seem to warp reality on the journey to internalize what others are saying.
You really do invest too much into internet fights. That you'd go history diving on someone else's profile and also ignore the blatant argument with a holocaust denier, and still act like you need the existence of that shit pointed out... lol.
As far as Rumble goes? Pragmatism. Alternatives have to exist to mount resistance or rebellion towards the intellectual hegemony. You can disagree with the special pleading if you want, because I am aware it is special pleading... but don't sit here and act like we accomplish much of anything by having R16 here. It's not like we'll ever become a driver of speech on iOS or the google play store. We don't have our domain registration pulled on a monthly basis. We're not 🥝👩🌾.
I don't believe you. You cheered on Rumble's censorship because it was being done to someone who criticizes Jews and (sort of) denied the Holobunga. There is nothing principled about that or your current crusade. You aren't fooling me.
Ah so that's what this is about, lmao. Pretty wild being a tradcuck, and a skinhead. I mean, if you want to make wild assumptions about me then I can make wild assumptions about you.
Also... Not exactly on a crusade? Shitposting about some inconsequential moderation weirdness does not equate to really giving a shit. I'm bored and I have free time tonight.
Just because you're consumed with your personal politics doesn't mean everyone else is.