Honestly I've just started discounting comments from platforms like these. I don't even think it's brainwashed people anymore, I think it's bots.
Discussing this over a longer term would be cool. I wish communities.win had PMs or a chat function.
Thanks for the info!
Those are some interesting suggestions.
If we had a high-trust society, you could just wander around and work odd jobs anywhere you pleased.
One of my flights of fancy imagines highly-mobile nomads delivering goods between and providing services to isolated homesteading communities.
Just look around on c/NoNewNormal or https://reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal
You don't have to be some devout orthodox true believer to submit this. Many just say they have an opposition to abortion that's rooted in religion (all the vaccines are made with derivatives of aborted cell lines), or simply say they believe their body is a temple that doesn't need unnatural remedies.
Here's a ton of links you might consider. Note that most of these are geared for US residents though.
A medical exemption may be more rock-solid for you if you can get it, especially in Canada.
https://reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/p1ypae/im_a_university_student_who_experienced_a_legal/
https:/reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/pbrsb8/so_youre_not_going_to_comply_with_your_employers/
https://reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/pbs5xm/religious_exemption_just_submitted/
https://reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/p1q5nm/religious_exemption_update/
https://reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/pbegx2/the_best_religious_exemption_letter/
https://reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/p40sbj/if_anyone_needs_religious_exemption_documents_for/
https://reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/pbwzrg/to_college_students_thinking_of_dropping_out_or/
https://reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/pbr4h8/any_religious_exemption_experiences/
https://news.gab.com/2021/07/29/important-download-covid-vaccine-religious-exemption-documents-here/
https://religiousexemption.us/
https://novaxmandate.org/letter
https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/post/987884/employer-letter-example-vaccine-mandate-objection
https://meganredshaw.substack.com/p/how-to-covid-religious-exemption
That's the way to do it.
Thanks! Would this basically be the same thing as an "e-check"?
This is great advice, thanks!
The situation will not deescalate, it will only escalate for the next 5-10 years.
What do you predict happening in the next few years?
I mean heck, that's better than some people I've seen who try for religious exemptions. Just a thought my friend.
If you go through this, IMO you should divide it into three sections
First section is the most visible on the site, and these are the top 10 most public scandals, where even flaming liberals would have to concede they were total lies:
- Covington Kids
- Jussie Smollett
- Michael Avenatti
- Chris Cuomo breaking quarantine
- Gavin Newsom breaking quarantine
- The NASCAR garage door puller
- Masks don't work -- now they DO!
- Covering up for the WHO dismissing Taiwan / The virus "does not spread person to person"
- Kavanaugh (maybe move down)
- Russian Collusion (maybe move down)
The second section would be very similar, very public scandals, but ones that liberals might need a bit more evidence to believe:
- Covering up Riots ("mostly peaceful protests")
- Democrats claiming covid wasn't a big deal / Blocking travel from China is xenophobic
- Cuomo Nursing homes
- That voter ID's are "racist" and people don't support them -- they overwhelmingly do
- FBI involvement in the 2016 election / Spying on Trump campaign (2016)
- Saying Trump "trashed dead American soldiers" even when people present said it never happened
- Covering up violence against conservatives
- Ignoring the skyrocketing crime in places where police were "defunded"
The third section would be everything else, backed up with evidence.
I recommend doing it like this because to redpill someone you need to get your foot in the door first, and get them to admit something that they already secretly know.
If you confront them with some of the more controversial stuff right away, they're pre-programmed to reject it. Instead it's got to be something that they have to admit to unless they deny reality, like the Jussie Smollet case or the Covington Catholic kids.
Start with truths that are easy to admit, and then move to the bigger stuff. "If the media was willing to lie about that, why wouldn't they lie about other things too?"
So basically just an unenforceable request for info?
That would be incredibly stupid.
Antifa plays games for a reason. Their goal is not to win through fighting, no matter how much they may brag on Twitter.
Their goal is to bait others into harming them. Once this happens, they go right to the media about how they were attacked - even if they struck first. Then they go to the police and press charges against whoever harmed them.
Antifa is a distraction. Don't take the bait.
Thanks! This is a good list to avoid. I'll have to ask around and find some alternatives to these.
Thanks! I mean to write a short guide about this, so everything helps.
A lot of this makes sense. I would like to see some discussions on the nomad lifestyle though, since I think it could work for some people.
Thank you so much for linking this! I didn't know that community existed!
Any chance of a health exemption or religious exemption?
How was that movie, btw? I was considering watching it but didn't want to see it if it had a bunch of propaganda in it.
There needs to be an authoritative guide written that deals with these topics. It would be ideal if Andrew Torba were to write it, but barring that, I'd be happy to throw a quick post together.
Then, that guide needs to be distributed everywhere.
The problem with the dissident sphere is that all good info is so scattered, and also that all the websites are ephemeral forums focused on "news" rather than repositories of knowledge focused on practical advice.
Any advice you have to offer would be appreciated, since you seem to be one of the most knowledgeable guys in this thread.
I especially don't get why they don't learn from the mistakes of others that have been burned.
Information in our space is very poorly distributed. Many business-owners may have not even heard of these cases.
If you absolutely must use it (and you don't) then attach the PayPal account to its own dedicated checking account and get that money to an account unaffiliated with PayPal ASAP except a small amount to cover any returns.
This is a great recommendation.
Do you have any recommendations for other services?
What financial services would you recommend they use instead?
There needs to be a quick-and-ready guide for people seeking to set up a new business, who want it to be secure and have ownership of their own funds.
They probably just thought they could start a business and run it like anyone else using the most convenient and popular tools.
They could have been smarter, but I don't blame them - it's the system that's fucked up. And we haven't really built alternatives yet, and those that do exist, the masses haven't heard about or don't know how to use.
For those wondering about OP's title, it looks like the autonomous zone was called SSPAZ (Salmon Springs Park Autonomous Zone) but only lasted a few hours at best.
And we fucking squandered it. We begged for the communist indoctrination centers to be reopened.
I think a lot of people got the message and started homeschooling after this. You're overall correct though.
I think the conservative movement desperately needs some real leadership and consistency in messaging. I don't think that re-opening schools was necessarily the popular position. If it wasn't, we need messaging that's more responsive to the base. If it was, then we need better thought leaders.
Thanks for posting this