Good, that should be the message, now excommunicate anyone off message or tell them they aren't Christians.
If I recall correctly, you are an atheist, not a Christian. Christians don't want or need atheists telling them how to be Christians any more than they want or need Jews telling them how to be Christians.
So of course, this article doesn't help define "dignity," and it isn't clear how significant it is, if really at all.
No, but the full declaration does. It defines several forms of dignity.
The full declaration is here.
Yet, your comment above indicates you are relying on a report by a journalist to tell you what the declaration says and "how significant it is". The declaration isn't that long, so perhaps it's worth reading rather than relying on a journalist?
Evolutionary psychology is the generally the domain of people who know nothing about evolution beyond a high school level (e.g. psychologists). It doesn't incorporate modern ideas about evolution from the biological sciences - what about genetic drift? Gene flow? Multi-level selection? Non-genetic inheritance? Basically, it involves individuals coming up with 'fun' sounding rationalizations for their pet theories based on an unfalsifiable appeal to 'natural selection' and 'fitness'. These theories are not even based on attempts to perform mathematical modelling of evolutionary trajectories, which is what evolutionary biologists would do (even if these simplistic models are no doubt flawed themselves).
Evolution, especially that of human behavior, is far more complicated that these evolutionary psychology 'theories' would have it, and in my opinion beyond the ability of any human to properly comprehend due to its extreme complexity involving so many variables, most of which could never even be measured properly. It is the domain of God.
There are other, far better, uses of our rational minds than arguments based on 'evolutionary psychology'.
ps. 'Briffault's Law' is also flawed when applied to humans. Even a casual observer of humans would observe that throughout history, unlike animals such as birds, it is the human females, not human males that seek to attract male attention by improving their appearance using makeup and clothes, seductive dancing etc. This clearly indicates females are competing amongst themselves to be chosen by their preferred males. These males are determining whether and with what females to associate with. To put it another way, how is the 80/20 rule and ideas surrounding 'Chad' consistent with Briffault's Law? Chad, a male, is obviously choosing which females to associate with. None of this means that males don't also have to compete amongst themselves to associate with their preferred females, but simply that your simplistic "Briffault's Law" does not apply to humans.
In my opinion, what she is observing is one of God's built-in mechanisms for ensuring His creation abides by His natural order. Men and women are not identical. Feminism, i.e. allowing women to control the state of the society, does not work as this is not the role of women. Feminism inevitable leads to the collapse of that society. A patriarchal society, where men control the state of the society, which is men's role, will take its place.
From a practical point of view, this is way societies should align themselves with His natural order. In doing so, they can be successful and thrive. Fail to do so, and they run a real risk of butting against the mechanisms He has but in place to ensure they stay as intended.
is it possible to be modern and fertile? So far, the answer appears to be ‘no’.
She is also wrong as she is using 'modern' as if it is absolute term instead of relative. Taking 'modern' to mean "characteristic of the present age", then every generation is 'modern' compared to past generations, and so yes, there were in fact modern and fertile societies.
What she really means is:
is it possible to be feminist and fertile. So far, the answer appears to be ‘no’.
But stating it that way would be too hard-hitting for her and her feminist audience.
Unless you are an incel genius like Isaac Newton or Nikolai Tesla then producing those children and doing your best to impart your values on to them, in spite of everything arrayed against you, is your "greater purpose".
No. For a Christian, the "greater purpose" is spreading the Good News of our Lord and King Jesus Christ to all people. This may involve having children, but everyone has their own calling. Your statement is steeped in materialism, where "scientific" advancement in a material sense, as exhibited by Newton or Tesla, or increasing the number of people in the world by having children, is the only "purpose" in life. This would have it that the saints throughout the ages who died or were martyred as virgins to spread Christianity to all the corners of the world were not achieving a "greater purpose", and were less important than Newton or Tesla.
In secular Western societies, for many individuals, their calling may be to re-evangelize to their brothers and sisters who are in apostasy or never truly exposed to the Word. This is a greater purpose, and all Christians are called to do so, even if they are single and do not feel the calling to have children.
For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to receive this, let him receive it.” (Matthew 19:12)
That and free hard-core porn on demand. Imagine the twisted perception of women and sex that comes from that cocktail.
Feminism and pornography (or at least sexual liberalisation) go hand-in-hand. Female power is largely derived from the ability to manipulate men using female sexuality.
While it's true that pornography corrupts the minds of boys and men, in my view, the biggest issue of this is that it enslaves boys and men to their sexual passions, making them good servants of "sexual-liberated" girls and women, who can use their sexualities to manipulate boys and men to achieve their own aims.
Another example of this is the prevalent attitude in Western societies that the amount of pre-marital sex a man has is an indicator of his "value". In other words, a male who is a successful fornicator is a "high-quality" man. How can this be? This only makes sense in a perverted feminist world where the most "useful" men are those that women can have sexual power over.
For boys and men to rise above feminism and become anti-feminist, they do need to be chaste and stop using pornography and fornicating. They need to take control of their lives so they can no longer be manipulated by shitty women using sex to control them.
(Another issue is that the rise of feminism has meant that male-female relationships have been badly corrupted, which means that many men and boys who want to do the right thing and contain their sexual passions within a monogamous relationship, as God intended, are unable to do so without ending up in bad relationships. Luckily, the part of solution to this is again male chastity - as this men to filter prospective partners better prior to entering into a relationship that could result in children, leaving him tied to her for life, whether or not she will be a good wife or mother. In other words, chastity better equips men to say "no" to a bad deal).
We've always been gynocentric. Even the oldest religions have a basis in gynocentrism.
No. I disagree. This is of those "evolutionary psychology" myths which is simply a modern rationalisation of the behavior observed in current society, as is the rest of your comment (evolutionary psychology is bunk, but that is a topic for a different time).
Human society has always had a basis in differing roles for men and women, not gynocentrism per se. I'm not sure what you mean by "the oldest religions", but it's clear to me that Christianity, as an example, is patriarchal, not gynocentric. The difference is that under patriarchy, it is the male role to lead society and men have natural authority over women. Part of the role may be to provide for and care for women in their families and societies, but this is an example differing roles of men and women (equally, women were expected to care for their families and societies including their men, using their feminine abilities and talents).
That "gynocentrism" is natural is a myth usually justified by modern thinking that is inherently flawed. For example, a common "evolutionary psychology" argument is that women are more intrinsically valuable, usually justified based on something to do with how many babies a man vs a woman could have, which makes no sense since the limiting factor in human populations is the ability to successful provide for the population and raise children to adulthood, for which men play a more important role than women. This is the reason males (boys) have been historically valued more than females (girls). We can see that even today in countries such as China.
It is only feminist societies in which this is reversed. Yes, this is partly to do male roles in Western society becoming less important as there is less of a need to physical strength, but in is more to do with the prevailing attitudes in society rather than reality. Even in modern Western societies women do not survive independently of men, their survival is still supported by men except not men in their families, but the men who do all the useful jobs like maintaining the food and water supplies, electricity and transport, mining resources and building homes etc.
I also disagree that the "natural" sexual strategy of humans naturally follow is "a tournament species". This makes no sense. Humans have always lived in societies. While there may have been examples of successful "tournament" human societies when one man gets all the women, this is generally a poorly surviving society as it requires other means to coercing the majority of men (who have no wives or children) to defend and provide for that society. As opposed to a society made up of stable families, in which all members of the society have a strong stake of their own in maintaining the society. In the latter example, it does not mean there is no hierarchy in the society. The "best" men (who win "tournaments") still get the "best" women. But the men below that also get women, simply not the "best" ones.
Others have already pointed out the prevalence of tradcucks and tradthots, but I'll also make the point that many people in the 'boomer' generation are strongly feminist, even if they don't call themselves that.
The sudden switch to a completely gynocentric society (as opposed to one where men and women had different domains) did not come from hardcore feminists, but rather due to the attitudes prevalent among most people. If you observe boomers, you'll find that boomer men in particular strongly believe that women were 'behind' entirely because of unfair discrimination. They might, for example, point out how "it's about time that women were common in male-dominated professions" or be at pains to point out the "genius of women" or other such thing. Many of these men have swallowed feminist rhetoric hook, line and sinker. Having come of age and spending most of their years of employment in male-dominated fields were women were not represented, they never actually had a chance to observe what women were like in the workplace, and so fall on their default chivalrous attitude where they take women's word for it.
It is only men and boys of younger generations that have actually been exposed to what women are really like and thus are better able to see feminist bullshit for what it is. Even then, men and boys post-boomer have suffered in a different way - they were constantly bombarded from their childhood onwards with feminist rhetoric and have had this drummed into them and need to be able to rise above this to become anti-feminist.
It goes without saying that I think that feminist rhetoric is harmful to men and boys in particular, and harmful to society in general, and men who realize this should do whatever they can to oppose it.
Don't stick your dick in crazy
Yes, but part of the issue is that often men don't know how crazy a woman is before they fuck her. A more effective solution is "don't fornicate".
Or unitarianism.
If you accept the Gospel as truth, then the divinity of Christ is clear. If you are struggling to accept the Gospel, then ask yourself the question that Pilate asked - Quid est veritas?
The only place you can truly find the answer to that question is within yourself. Search within yourself and I trust that you will find what you are seeking there. You will find Him, now or eventually.
All the best.
Christ is King
Christ is King
Ah yes. This is why all those saints who were chaste virgins throughout the ages were deeply troubled by their "swollen prostate glands". It is a well known, fact, of course. Proven by Modern Science.
That worked SO well in schools and didn't just deliver kids to the left so easily along with culture loss too..
I really hope you aren't indicative of the churches in your area otherwise those kids aren't going to go to religion but the left...again..
You are suggesting that it is necessary to condone pornography and masturbation to children to "get them on your side". You should really reflect on what you are saying here.
I'm not leaving feminism out, either. I would go so far as to say that "sexual freedom" makes the rise of feminism inevitable.
I agree with this. Women and feminists gain power from men using their sexuality. This only works at a wholesale level if sexual morality is diminished in society so that women are freely allowed to use sex to manipulate men. It should be clear from seeing men simping over women who dress like sluts, OnlyFans models etc., that part of the reason why women have some much power in Western societies is that they are freely able to use their sexuality to control men.
As a corollary to this is that, the solution to overcoming feminism is reimposing sexual morality. At an individual level, men can make a dent by being chaste. Male chastity resists the ability of women to manipulate men. A man who is chaste is able to resist simping for women. He will be able to stand up for what is right and act like a man, instead of being beholden to women (or whoever controls his access to sex and pornography).
This is the part of the reason I strongly promote sexuality morality and chastity to men. It's all very well to complain about society and feminists, but being chaste is actually something effective men can do about it.
And you accuse ME of being manipulative. This is essentially 'do as I say to prove that I'm wrong but in the process prove you are easily manipulated into dying as you're told'
How is that being manipulative? I'm simply pointing out the truth. You said that you are "controlling your sexual desires". Yet, your defensive response tells me that you are unable to stop giving in to them for even a few months. You are not actually in control of your sexual urges, despite your insistence otherwise. Your sexual urges are controlling you.
Those that practice abstinence are in control of their sexual urges. They are not "repressing natural sexual urges", but using their reason to control sexual urges and their lives.
If you truly want to "control your sexual desires", then you need to practice abstinence.
If you don't want, to, so be it, it is your life. But don't tell people you are controlling your sexual desires when you are not.
there's only one solution - i mean you're not advocating hookers are you
?? You don't have to have sex or masturbate. You can just not do it and have a good a life. As I said elsewhere, what is revealing about those who support masturbation is they tend to tell people that "abstinence is impossible", which tells me that they are clearly enslaved by they sexual urges, and definitely not in control of them.
Not eating meat controls your life because you are purposely limiting nutrition options when it isn't medically required
Not exercising limits later mobility as you let muscles waste than keep them stimulated. Which ironically is this principle..
This is a poor argument. You are taking something that needs to be done to survive - eating or exercising - and using that as an analogy for masturbation and pornography. Masturbation is not actually needed to survive, but what is most telling is that those that are supporting masturbation tend to imply that it is. This tells me that those supporting masturbation are actually enslaved by their sexual urges because they are unable to consider the possibility of going without.
There's a difference between 'socially controlling sexual desires' and 'repressing natural sexual urges'
LOL. Typical manipulative language. So "moderate masturbating" is "controlling sexual desires" but "abstinence from masturbation" is not a more effective means of "controlling sexual desires", but rather "repressing natural sexual urges", i.e. unnaturally repressing something that is "normal".
believe any action that leads to self pleasure will end in the same result.
Self pleasure is always a tends to a self reinforcing circle. To prove my point, here's a challenge for you: If you are truly in control of your sexual urges, stop masturbating for a month or two. It should be easy if your reason is in control, correct?
If you abstain too long you'll have a nocturnal emission anyway.
Noctural emissions are not under conscious control so don't count as sexual sins.
And prostate health is based on frequent usage - use it , or lose it
Pretty much what the article argues. "Doctors and therapists" are, like you, worried that men might abstain from fornication and masturbation. In the interests of "prostate health", of course. No rationalization or seeking to keep men enslaved to the pursuit of orgasms. Definitely not.
It's another case of moderation is best than the two extremes of being a gooner and essentially putting a chastity belt on yourself.
Spoken like someone enslaved to pornography and masturbation. Chastity through self-mastery nothing like "putting a chastity belt on yourself" because it's about practising discipline and freeing oneself from unwanted sexual urges. It's permanent post-nut clarity. Lustful thoughts might still come occasionally but they don't persist.
Just don't let it control your life either way.
How does "not doing something" control your life? You just don't do it. And then have time for other things.
This is from February, so not particularly new, but I am posting now because I thought it was loosely related to the post on TikTok banning videos critical of birth control.
Abstinence a bad thing?
It tells you that the powers-that-be what people to be addicted to pornography, and masturbation and fornication. Sexual sins lead to other sins. For the individual, sexual sins lead to enslavement by those who control access to sex. If you want to be free, you need to be chaste.
Rolling back birth control is necessary for obeying God's natural law.
Exactly Jesus teaches us to be virtuous but actually warns us not to virtue signal:
“Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give alms, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by men. Truly, I say to you, they have their reward. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you. [Matthew 6:1-4]
As an atheist, your goals for Christianity differ from the goals of Christians and the goals of Christ Himself. As your comment implies, you see Christianity only as a political tool to achieve your political aims. You see it as a way to enforce your desired moral outcomes, not God's moral outcomes. That is not Christianity.
In contrast, a Christian sees his religion as Truth. Christ is the Son of God. He is Lord and King. We obey Christ becomes it is our duty to so. He has tasked us with loving God and loving our neighbours as well as our enemies. Fundamentally, a Christian's main motivation is to achieve God's will, not the will of humans. Therein is the clear distinction between your goals and my goals.
In some cases, I may be able to work you to achieve particular aims. But I will not apologize for calling out your attempt to tell me how I should be acting as a Christian. If I need guidance, I will turn to prayer and the Holy Spirit, not a random atheist on the internet.
You do, of course, have the free will to become accept Christ in your life as King and Saviour and become Christian. It is my hope that you do so.