Yeah, I'd rather not. I still remember when the government barred parents from getting treatments for their baby in the UK "because it probably won't work and it costs a lot"
Also, if it was up to the NHS, I'd have died at 14. They fucked up majorly and I had to see a private doctor in Italy.
Also, if it was up to the NHS, I'd have died at 14.
Its funny how little their supporters care about these types of things. As if us being dead is just a "whatevs, worth it for the better world."
I only didn't get aborted because my mother was too poor to afford it, so that couple hundred bucks we force people to pay is all that saved me. Until she was too far along and got caught by her mother. Yet feminists whine all the time it should be free and easier.
Also higher per-capita WuFlu mortality than the USA ( much lower than Democrat New-York though ). And I have been on the list waiting over two years for a "family doctor" ( basically a doctor you can make apointments with, rather than go to the ER or try to get a spot at open clinics that fill within 10 minutes of opening ).
If you need urgent lifesaving treatment, it's good and lower cost than US hospitals though. The "price" is gatekeeping non-emergencies so patients give-up and recover on their own, or suffer with their problems untill they can't function or live with them.
The other option is gatekeeping the same people out with a price barrier.
A universal public system has advantages, but also important drawbacks.
Managing WuFlu is absolutely not a general success in states with universal public healthcare. This is just a dishonest use of an opportunity to try and push for it.
Imagine being sick, in pain, and having to wait to hit the refresh button on your browser as soon as the system opens, rush filling the form, then click to send, praying the request goes through fast enough so you don't get a "désolé, le sans rendez-vous est complet, les inscriptions ouvrent à 18h pour le lendemain".
And if you go to the ER because you couldn't get a spot at open clinics, expect to wait anywhere from 3 to 16 hours. Exceptionally you can wait as little 1h30 ( like at a more rural hospital on a day with 2 doctors on the floor ) or over 20 hours. Yes, a whole fucking day. Québec has the worst ER waiting time of the whole developped world.
Got a medical issue that's not an emergency? Good luck finding a doctor that still takes on new patients. They're running on such tight government-mandated margins that they have to be overbooked all the time.
If you actually get an appointment you still have to wait a few hours till they can squeeze you in. You can bypass some of that by getting private or additional insurance.
On top of that you get premium increases every few years because the already strained system gets fucked by all the asylum seekers who get free healthcare without ever having paid into the system.
I have a theory that the optimal healthcare system is being able to have both. This is what makes Canada "good" at healthcare. They can pay for the emergencies and anything you can wait for, but for the expensive, life-altering treatments that the government is unwilling to pay for, you just hop down to America and give them a nice check. Too bad living in Canada means having to pay more taxes, live in worse climate, have immediate access to less businesses, and limited freedom of press.
These people are Utopians, and, as usual with these people, complex and unavoidable issues, like death and illness, will simply disappear once we've signed their skin-deep concept into law.
Yeah, I'd rather not. I still remember when the government barred parents from getting treatments for their baby in the UK "because it probably won't work and it costs a lot"
Also, if it was up to the NHS, I'd have died at 14. They fucked up majorly and I had to see a private doctor in Italy.
Its funny how little their supporters care about these types of things. As if us being dead is just a "whatevs, worth it for the better world."
I only didn't get aborted because my mother was too poor to afford it, so that couple hundred bucks we force people to pay is all that saved me. Until she was too far along and got caught by her mother. Yet feminists whine all the time it should be free and easier.
We have universal public healthcare in Québec.
Also higher per-capita WuFlu mortality than the USA ( much lower than Democrat New-York though ). And I have been on the list waiting over two years for a "family doctor" ( basically a doctor you can make apointments with, rather than go to the ER or try to get a spot at open clinics that fill within 10 minutes of opening ).
If you need urgent lifesaving treatment, it's good and lower cost than US hospitals though. The "price" is gatekeeping non-emergencies so patients give-up and recover on their own, or suffer with their problems untill they can't function or live with them.
The other option is gatekeeping the same people out with a price barrier.
A universal public system has advantages, but also important drawbacks.
Managing WuFlu is absolutely not a general success in states with universal public healthcare. This is just a dishonest use of an opportunity to try and push for it.
Imagine being sick, in pain, and having to wait to hit the refresh button on your browser as soon as the system opens, rush filling the form, then click to send, praying the request goes through fast enough so you don't get a "désolé, le sans rendez-vous est complet, les inscriptions ouvrent à 18h pour le lendemain".
And if you go to the ER because you couldn't get a spot at open clinics, expect to wait anywhere from 3 to 16 hours. Exceptionally you can wait as little 1h30 ( like at a more rural hospital on a day with 2 doctors on the floor ) or over 20 hours. Yes, a whole fucking day. Québec has the worst ER waiting time of the whole developped world.
Sounds similar to Germany.
Got a medical issue that's not an emergency? Good luck finding a doctor that still takes on new patients. They're running on such tight government-mandated margins that they have to be overbooked all the time.
If you actually get an appointment you still have to wait a few hours till they can squeeze you in. You can bypass some of that by getting private or additional insurance.
On top of that you get premium increases every few years because the already strained system gets fucked by all the asylum seekers who get free healthcare without ever having paid into the system.
I have a theory that the optimal healthcare system is being able to have both. This is what makes Canada "good" at healthcare. They can pay for the emergencies and anything you can wait for, but for the expensive, life-altering treatments that the government is unwilling to pay for, you just hop down to America and give them a nice check. Too bad living in Canada means having to pay more taxes, live in worse climate, have immediate access to less businesses, and limited freedom of press.
At you least you won't be bankrupt like in the USA. I'd take a long wait to spending thousands just to not die.
... because everybody knows the pinnacle of medical practice is the former USSR, right?
These people are Utopians, and, as usual with these people, complex and unavoidable issues, like death and illness, will simply disappear once we've signed their skin-deep concept into law.
Innovation > Socialization
Going by that logic europe should have zero covid deaths