On normie KiA2 there is this guy (not sure if he is here) who is gay and goes ballistic every time a gay pedophile is mentioned. He claims pedo is its own thing and you can't be gay if you are a pedophile.
That pisses me off every single time. I am not saying all gays are horrid. I am 1000% sure that's not it. But to claim NONE can be bad basically just says "nah, fuck that, shut up" to children who were molested by people of the same gender. It's untrue and not just that, but it basically makes it so we are less likely to actually figure out something is wrong, protect kids and help the ones who are already victims.
Which is never okay. I don't care about a grownass gay adult's feelings if a small child's safety is at risk and I'm not saying that because it's a GAY person, but because children are vulnerable as hell. They have no way of defending themselves and they can get really really messed up really easily.
Yeah, it's like the feminist "women can do no wrong" thing - when women engage in domestic violence it's obviously (cue dramatic eye-roll) something the man did that earned it.
I'm not saying that all women are Cruella De Vil, just that it's beyond the realms of sanity to cast an entire demographic as completely without responsibility for any element of their own lives.
NAMBLA was often a fixture of the early LGBT marches and movement. It was openly accepted and promoted at these events. They've since attempted to bury the connections, but it seems like we're seeing a resurgence.
I haven't seen him around. Its quite frustrating how blinded he is by "GOTTA PROTECT THE TRIBE." Its a problem many of the usual "progressive" groups have, where they cannot admit a single fault with their group at all. From women to blacks to gays to Jews, etc. etc.
There is far too much evidence both historically and continually of a relationship there beyond just pure happenstance. Trying to deny it only protects the wrongdoers further.
Statistically gay men are some 10x more likely to be pedophiles. It just takes putting together simple math until you realize the hate facts.
Taking the lowball numbers, for estimates, 7% of girls and 3% of boys are molested as children. ~90% of molestations are done by men. To be as generous as possible to homosexuals, we can say that women just have an average distribution taking 10% off the top. Gay men make up at ~2% of the population.
So 48% of the population (straight men) is molesting 6.3% of the population (girls). On average every straight guy results in .14 molested girls. And 2% of the population is molesting 2.7% of the population (boys). That means on average every gay guy results in 1.35 molested boys.
That's basically 10x worse.
In other reports, I've seen numbers that around 20% of molestation on boys is perpetrated by women.
In that case it drops down to every gay statistically molesting ~1.2 boys in their life. And I'm sure not every homosexual rapes kids, but it's made up for by the ones who rape multiples.
Also note that this lines up very suspiciously with nearly half of all gay/bi men having been molested as children.
It points very heavily at a causal link. Gays molest children, which causes more children to be gay.
It is quite interesting what people are willing to ignore or point out when it fits their own biases. Like with the sexual abuse within the Catholic church, there was a lot of making fun of Catholics. Yet little targeting towards it being mostly homo pedophilia.
Remember when mass murder was defined as killing four or more eople in a brief window of time in the same geographic proximity, with a motive that wasn't "if I don't shoot I will probably die?"
The Tavistock Clinic is doing mass medical tranny experimentation on children. In Germany, Dr Kentler gave foster kids to pedos, and green movement founder Daniel Cohn-Bendit bragged about a child sex daycare. Globohomo's chomopomo prophets openly talk about their love of pedos:
These days, especially in America, boy-love is not only scandalous and criminal, but somehow in bad taste. On the evening news, one sees handcuffed teachers, priests and Boy Scout leaders hustled into police vans. Therapists call them maladjusted, emotionally immature. But beauty has its own laws, inconsistent with Christian morality. As a woman, I feel free to protest that men today are pilloried for something that was rational and honorable in Greece at the height of its civilization.
-Camille Paglia, Sexual Personae
any child old enough to decide whether or not she or he wants to eat spinach, play with trucks or wear shoes is old enough to decide whether or not she or he wants to run around naked in the sun, masturbate sit in somebody's lap or engage in sexual activity.
-Pat Califia, cited in Sexual Investigations by Soble
This notion of consent is a trap, in any case. What is sure is that the legal form of an intersexual consent is nonsense. No one signs a contract before making love... When we say that children are 'consenting' in these cases, all we intend to say is this: in any case, there was no violence, or organized manipulation in order to wrench out of them affective or erotic relations.
-Guy Hocquenghem, Sexual Morality and the Law, signer of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws
Like communists and homosexuals in the 1950s, boylovers are so stigmatized that it is difficult to find defenders for their civil liberties, let alone for their erotic orientation.
-Gayle Rubin, Thinking Sex, widely regarded as a founding text of Gay/Lesbian studies and Queer Theory
But pederasty is probably historically the most common form of homosexuality in Western culture, as well as many other cultures. It exists in all cultures, and in some is considered the norm, even today (e.g., Iran, among the Pashtuns). To label it 'child abuse' or 'child molestation' is preposterous and stupid.
-David Thorstad, rage email, president of both the Gay Activists Alliance and Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights in NYC in the 1970s, founder of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), compared being a pederast in the US with being "a Jew in Nazi Germany"
It is not necessary to figure parent-child incest as a unilateral impingement on the child by the parent, since whatever impingement takes place will also be registered within the sphere of fantasy. In fact, to understand the violation that incest can be and also to distinguish between those occasions of incest that are violation and those that are not it is unnecessary to figure the body of the child exclusively as a surface imposed upon from the outside... The reification of the child’s body as passive surface would thus constitute, at a theoretical level, a further deprivation of the child: the deprivation of psychic life.
-Judith Butler, Undoing Gender, most influential living gender theorist. She sees incest taboo as working towards heteronormativity and asks that prohibition on incest be rethought to prevent the "violation" that is heteronormativity.
If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual ... then I would not call it pathological in any way.
-John Money, Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia, psychologist who forced a boy to be a girl and get humped by his twin brother after a botched circumcision. Both of the Reimer brothers committed suicide.
But, after all, listening to a child, hearing him speak, hearing him explain what his relations actually were with someone, adult or not, provided one listens with enough sympathy, must allow one to establish more or less what degree of violence if any was used or what degree of consent was given. And to assume that a child is incapable of explaining what happened and was incapable of giving his consent are two abuses that are intolerable, quite unacceptable.
-Michel Foucault, The Danger of Child Sexuality, Pope of Chomopomo, most cited academic in grievance studies, signer of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws
Other notable globohomo clergy:
Henry "Harry" Hay, pioneer in US Gay rights, founder of the first sustained gay rights group in the US. Supported NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) and marched in the pride parade with a "NAMBLA walks with me" shirt.
Magnus Hirschfeld founder in 1897 of an institute deemed "the first advocacy for homosexual and transgender rights", considered homosexual "ephebophiles" as something common and nonpathological.
Simone de Beauvoir, lesbian feminist superhero second to none, of "every woman is homosexual by nature" fame, was one of the signers of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws demanding "recognition of the right of children and adolescents to maintain relationships with persons of their choice". It was in reaction to three men being taken to trial for grooming boys and girls under 15 years of age, but allegedly "without violence".
Harvey Milk, the first openly gay elected official in California, of Oscar winning biopic about his life, and has a Navy ship named after him. Milk took advantage of his work with at-risk youth to groom at least one 16yo runaway Jack Galen McKinley who had substance abuse problems and lived on the streets of NYC (where the age of consent was 17). Jack would end up comitting suicide years later.
tl;dr Not fucking children is somehow child abuse.
But I have been told gays can't possibly be pedophiles! It's not a thing, you become not gay the moment you rape a child. What is going oooon???
Ignore how many serial killers are both gay and pedo as well. Certainly isn't well above the relative average.
On normie KiA2 there is this guy (not sure if he is here) who is gay and goes ballistic every time a gay pedophile is mentioned. He claims pedo is its own thing and you can't be gay if you are a pedophile.
That pisses me off every single time. I am not saying all gays are horrid. I am 1000% sure that's not it. But to claim NONE can be bad basically just says "nah, fuck that, shut up" to children who were molested by people of the same gender. It's untrue and not just that, but it basically makes it so we are less likely to actually figure out something is wrong, protect kids and help the ones who are already victims.
Which is never okay. I don't care about a grownass gay adult's feelings if a small child's safety is at risk and I'm not saying that because it's a GAY person, but because children are vulnerable as hell. They have no way of defending themselves and they can get really really messed up really easily.
Yeah, it's like the feminist "women can do no wrong" thing - when women engage in domestic violence it's obviously (cue dramatic eye-roll) something the man did that earned it.
I'm not saying that all women are Cruella De Vil, just that it's beyond the realms of sanity to cast an entire demographic as completely without responsibility for any element of their own lives.
Pattern recognition is always problematic when it's applied to a group you approve of.
NAMBLA was often a fixture of the early LGBT marches and movement. It was openly accepted and promoted at these events. They've since attempted to bury the connections, but it seems like we're seeing a resurgence.
I haven't seen him around. Its quite frustrating how blinded he is by "GOTTA PROTECT THE TRIBE." Its a problem many of the usual "progressive" groups have, where they cannot admit a single fault with their group at all. From women to blacks to gays to Jews, etc. etc.
There is far too much evidence both historically and continually of a relationship there beyond just pure happenstance. Trying to deny it only protects the wrongdoers further.
Statistically gay men are some 10x more likely to be pedophiles. It just takes putting together simple math until you realize the hate facts.
Taking the lowball numbers, for estimates, 7% of girls and 3% of boys are molested as children. ~90% of molestations are done by men. To be as generous as possible to homosexuals, we can say that women just have an average distribution taking 10% off the top. Gay men make up at ~2% of the population.
So 48% of the population (straight men) is molesting 6.3% of the population (girls). On average every straight guy results in .14 molested girls. And 2% of the population is molesting 2.7% of the population (boys). That means on average every gay guy results in 1.35 molested boys.
That's basically 10x worse.
In other reports, I've seen numbers that around 20% of molestation on boys is perpetrated by women.
In that case it drops down to every gay statistically molesting ~1.2 boys in their life. And I'm sure not every homosexual rapes kids, but it's made up for by the ones who rape multiples.
Also note that this lines up very suspiciously with nearly half of all gay/bi men having been molested as children.
It points very heavily at a causal link. Gays molest children, which causes more children to be gay.
It is quite interesting what people are willing to ignore or point out when it fits their own biases. Like with the sexual abuse within the Catholic church, there was a lot of making fun of Catholics. Yet little targeting towards it being mostly homo pedophilia.
Remember when mass murder was defined as killing four or more eople in a brief window of time in the same geographic proximity, with a motive that wasn't "if I don't shoot I will probably die?"
Only one was a pedo, the other was a domestic abuser...
The Tavistock Clinic is doing mass medical tranny experimentation on children. In Germany, Dr Kentler gave foster kids to pedos, and green movement founder Daniel Cohn-Bendit bragged about a child sex daycare. Globohomo's chomopomo prophets openly talk about their love of pedos:
-Camille Paglia, Sexual Personae
-Pat Califia, cited in Sexual Investigations by Soble
-Guy Hocquenghem, Sexual Morality and the Law, signer of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws
-Gayle Rubin, Thinking Sex, widely regarded as a founding text of Gay/Lesbian studies and Queer Theory
-David Thorstad, rage email, president of both the Gay Activists Alliance and Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights in NYC in the 1970s, founder of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), compared being a pederast in the US with being "a Jew in Nazi Germany"
-Judith Butler, Undoing Gender, most influential living gender theorist. She sees incest taboo as working towards heteronormativity and asks that prohibition on incest be rethought to prevent the "violation" that is heteronormativity.
-John Money, Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia, psychologist who forced a boy to be a girl and get humped by his twin brother after a botched circumcision. Both of the Reimer brothers committed suicide.
-Michel Foucault, The Danger of Child Sexuality, Pope of Chomopomo, most cited academic in grievance studies, signer of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws
Other notable globohomo clergy:
Henry "Harry" Hay, pioneer in US Gay rights, founder of the first sustained gay rights group in the US. Supported NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) and marched in the pride parade with a "NAMBLA walks with me" shirt.
Magnus Hirschfeld founder in 1897 of an institute deemed "the first advocacy for homosexual and transgender rights", considered homosexual "ephebophiles" as something common and nonpathological.
Simone de Beauvoir, lesbian feminist superhero second to none, of "every woman is homosexual by nature" fame, was one of the signers of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws demanding "recognition of the right of children and adolescents to maintain relationships with persons of their choice". It was in reaction to three men being taken to trial for grooming boys and girls under 15 years of age, but allegedly "without violence".
Harvey Milk, the first openly gay elected official in California, of Oscar winning biopic about his life, and has a Navy ship named after him. Milk took advantage of his work with at-risk youth to groom at least one 16yo runaway Jack Galen McKinley who had substance abuse problems and lived on the streets of NYC (where the age of consent was 17). Jack would end up comitting suicide years later.
tl;dr Not fucking children is somehow child abuse.