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Australian for Authotitarian: Victorian Government Pushes New Bill to Detain ‘Conspiracy Theorists,’ Anti-Lockdown Protesters, and Families (caldronpool.com)
posted 5 years ago by Happily_Grim 5 years ago by Happily_Grim +49 / -0
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– Happily_Grim [S] 30 points 5 years ago +30 / -0

You have to love how people are constantly saying that speech laws aren't that big of a deal – until they lead to this and you've already set precedent for legislating speech.
I'm not even Australian, but the shit coming out of there lately has been insane.
Although, I guess it's certainly been heading that direction for quite a while now.

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– Galean 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

Those who say speech laws are harmless are just trying to rationalize it. The "good" side wants to implement this laws so they must accept them in order to keep being good. Deep down they know how abusive and evil this laws are.

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– coke501 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

There are enough idiots that really think they are harmless. They lack the foresight or imagination that it will ever hit something they care about.

That's why I always ask myself, when I think that a piece of legislation is a good thing: "Would I want to have the person that I despise most to have the power that comes with this law?"

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– GoggleHead 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

This is why I'm starting to sour on the idea of universal voting rights. A large chunk of the population is not to be trusted with decision making power, but the alternative seems downright terrifying.

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– Auntie_Mildred 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Voting rights should come with some sort of responsibility as a citizen or at least be limited to those who have stake in the decisions being made.

If you are voting on a millage and it won't affect your taxes, then maybe you shouldn't have a vote. Or, your vote should have less weight than the vote of someone who's taxes are going to increase.

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– persiaprince 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

service guarantees citizenship

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– DrBarkanine 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I find myself toying with the idea of changing universal voting rights too from time to time, since it does seem like a vector to erode a country's morals, values, and even prosperity. I don't think we'd need to go full Starship Trooper or only permit property owners to vote, but maybe net positive taxpayers could be fine? Harder to verify that though.

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– Lurker404 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Deep down they know how abusive and evil this laws are.

I doubt it. IMHO it's more that these laws benefit them so they're in favor. They're too ignorant to realize these laws could be turned on them.

Just like everyone thinks they're going to be the ruling class/commissars in the coming socialist revolution, and not just some random stiff in a work camp.

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– JuliasEbola00 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

I'm Irish, and our current government is considering banning protests. There was no talk of this during the BLM nonsense, the topic only popped up when groups deemed as "far right" held several successful protests against virus restrictions. Of course the left are doing their usual bullshit about supporting peoples rights, once they aren't "harmful", and of course anyone who disagrees with them is viewed as harmful.

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