Your title is false. Only 6% of COVID deaths were described only as a COVID death, but many of the conditions associated with the other 94% - pneumonia, ARDS, sepsis, renal failure, etc - are symptoms of COVID-19. Death from pneumonia is still death by COVID-19 if COVID-19's what gave you pneumonia.
It's no different then when leftists cite and quote random shit out of context without understanding what is being said or the background of it. It's just "MUH STUDIES."
Compare this to every other disease. It's very rarely purely the virus itself that kills you. The virus weakens you and puts the body in a vulnerable position to be damaged much easier by other conditions.
Influenza is the same way.
We gain nothing by becoming like the anti-science left.
Technically, no one dies of the human immunodeficiency virus. They die of whatever infections they get after HIV has destroyed their immune system. Is why it was able to circulate in the population for decades before the CDC was able to pinpoint that all these weird infections and people with an unexplained (perhaps genetic) lack of immunity/wrecked immune systems did indeed have a cause, and weren't just random, unrelated weirdnesses.
I was about 12, my mother was a hospital dictatypist, in 1980 when this case walked in, his lungs full of some vaginal fungus. Had everyone in a real tizzy.
Yeah all I really want is a number calculated in a manner consistent with how flu deaths are estimated each year. I doubt we'll get it though: the data we have has been so corrupted I don't know how one could derive meaningful statistics from it.
You will never disentangle COVID-19 deaths from deaths caused by other health conditions. This is especially the case when every official attempt to count covid-19 deaths is invariably 100% political.
Total deaths for all causes is a useful starting point. Right now, we're on track for roughly 10% more deaths than average in 2020. That's a big bump consistent with a very bad flu season. It is not consistent with a deadly global pandemic.
We also have no idea what that number means until we can compare it to the next 5-10 years and dig into the causes more thoroughly. Are suicides up because of the lockdowns? Definitely. Are people dying of preventable health conditions at home because no one is going to hospitals? Also yes. Are fewer people dying in car accidents because of reduced commuting to work? Probably. Will there be fewer deaths related to other health conditions in the next five years because covid-19 more or less fastracked some of our elderly and sick? Most likely.
Even when you throw out obvious cases of sabotage (like the five democrat states that seeded the virus in nursing homes), there's a decent chance our numbers end up on the wrong side of Sweden's. The lockdowns might very well have increased deaths over time by delaying herd immunity.
The biggest takeaway for me: this wasn't even close to the black death, but you wouldn't know it based on our reaction to it. Is this shit show going to happen every time there's a moderately more lethal flu? And how fucked are we going to be when there's a legitimately lethal virus?
The biggest takeaway for me: most people will indefinitely give up all their liberties to the government without any resistance, up to and including indefinitely closing the businesses that feed their families. We see time and again examples where if hundreds or thousands of people defy the "orders" at once the government is powerless to do anything, yet the level of resistance is effectively zero even after 6 months.
This is the other thing I think about whenever I hear someone say "take your country back". What exactly am I taking back, and is it something I want to take back?
"The biggest takeaway for me: this wasn't even close to the black death, but you wouldn't know it based on our reaction to it. Is this shit show going to happen every time there's a moderately more lethal flu? And how fucked are we going to be when there's a legitimately lethal virus?"
Same here, all this has shown me is that if we ever have to face a truly deadly and infectious disease, we are straight fucked. I'm talking major societal collapse within weeks of international spread.
Your title is false. Only 6% of COVID deaths were described only as a COVID death, but many of the conditions associated with the other 94% - pneumonia, ARDS, sepsis, renal failure, etc - are symptoms of COVID-19. Death from pneumonia is still death by COVID-19 if COVID-19's what gave you pneumonia.
I hate this shitty meme going around.
It's no different then when leftists cite and quote random shit out of context without understanding what is being said or the background of it. It's just "MUH STUDIES."
Compare this to every other disease. It's very rarely purely the virus itself that kills you. The virus weakens you and puts the body in a vulnerable position to be damaged much easier by other conditions.
Influenza is the same way.
We gain nothing by becoming like the anti-science left.
Technically, no one dies of the human immunodeficiency virus. They die of whatever infections they get after HIV has destroyed their immune system. Is why it was able to circulate in the population for decades before the CDC was able to pinpoint that all these weird infections and people with an unexplained (perhaps genetic) lack of immunity/wrecked immune systems did indeed have a cause, and weren't just random, unrelated weirdnesses.
I was about 12, my mother was a hospital dictatypist, in 1980 when this case walked in, his lungs full of some vaginal fungus. Had everyone in a real tizzy.
Yeah all I really want is a number calculated in a manner consistent with how flu deaths are estimated each year. I doubt we'll get it though: the data we have has been so corrupted I don't know how one could derive meaningful statistics from it.
You will never disentangle COVID-19 deaths from deaths caused by other health conditions. This is especially the case when every official attempt to count covid-19 deaths is invariably 100% political.
Total deaths for all causes is a useful starting point. Right now, we're on track for roughly 10% more deaths than average in 2020. That's a big bump consistent with a very bad flu season. It is not consistent with a deadly global pandemic.
We also have no idea what that number means until we can compare it to the next 5-10 years and dig into the causes more thoroughly. Are suicides up because of the lockdowns? Definitely. Are people dying of preventable health conditions at home because no one is going to hospitals? Also yes. Are fewer people dying in car accidents because of reduced commuting to work? Probably. Will there be fewer deaths related to other health conditions in the next five years because covid-19 more or less fastracked some of our elderly and sick? Most likely.
Even when you throw out obvious cases of sabotage (like the five democrat states that seeded the virus in nursing homes), there's a decent chance our numbers end up on the wrong side of Sweden's. The lockdowns might very well have increased deaths over time by delaying herd immunity.
The biggest takeaway for me: this wasn't even close to the black death, but you wouldn't know it based on our reaction to it. Is this shit show going to happen every time there's a moderately more lethal flu? And how fucked are we going to be when there's a legitimately lethal virus?
The biggest takeaway for me: most people will indefinitely give up all their liberties to the government without any resistance, up to and including indefinitely closing the businesses that feed their families. We see time and again examples where if hundreds or thousands of people defy the "orders" at once the government is powerless to do anything, yet the level of resistance is effectively zero even after 6 months.
This is the other thing I think about whenever I hear someone say "take your country back". What exactly am I taking back, and is it something I want to take back?
"The biggest takeaway for me: this wasn't even close to the black death, but you wouldn't know it based on our reaction to it. Is this shit show going to happen every time there's a moderately more lethal flu? And how fucked are we going to be when there's a legitimately lethal virus?"
Same here, all this has shown me is that if we ever have to face a truly deadly and infectious disease, we are straight fucked. I'm talking major societal collapse within weeks of international spread.
What about high speed lead?