Even if you believe every single last person in NYC has been infected, the IFR is still twice as high as the flu with the number of deaths that have already occurred in the 5 boroughs. It's worse than the flu. Twice as bad is the bare minimum maths allow, even if no one else dies.
I'm talking about specifically NYC. Those are the numbers I'm using. If everyone has it, there can be no intentional spread to vulnerable populations. There's spread to everyone. Best case scenario is .22 IFR, simply based on NYCs numbers.
You can say that NYC has an elderly population, and I'm not really sure. You can say the number of deaths are inflated, even though something is killing a fuck ton more people than what the official number suggests. I'm just saying, what you're presenting isn't reasonable with the facts you've provided. I'm interested in a valid argument for why it's just the flu, but I haven't seen one yet that's supported by a little common sense and 5th grade math.
Personally, I don't think it's that bad. Yes, 1:150 to 1:100 will die, and they're mostly old. Sucks, but not worth wrecking the economy over. I just see a lot of unsubstantiated bullshit saying it's nothing, or is the fucking plague. The truth lies in the middle. Understand what we're dealing with, and act accordingly. Don't downplay or exaggerate it. Wear a mask if it saves some old people, or don't and help Social Security.
Even if you believe every single last person in NYC has been infected, the IFR is still twice as high as the flu with the number of deaths that have already occurred in the 5 boroughs. It's worse than the flu. Twice as bad is the bare minimum maths allow, even if no one else dies.
Except IFR isn't just new york. It's balanced by everywhere else not intentionally killing the elderly.
I'm talking about specifically NYC. Those are the numbers I'm using. If everyone has it, there can be no intentional spread to vulnerable populations. There's spread to everyone. Best case scenario is .22 IFR, simply based on NYCs numbers.
You can say that NYC has an elderly population, and I'm not really sure. You can say the number of deaths are inflated, even though something is killing a fuck ton more people than what the official number suggests. I'm just saying, what you're presenting isn't reasonable with the facts you've provided. I'm interested in a valid argument for why it's just the flu, but I haven't seen one yet that's supported by a little common sense and 5th grade math.
Personally, I don't think it's that bad. Yes, 1:150 to 1:100 will die, and they're mostly old. Sucks, but not worth wrecking the economy over. I just see a lot of unsubstantiated bullshit saying it's nothing, or is the fucking plague. The truth lies in the middle. Understand what we're dealing with, and act accordingly. Don't downplay or exaggerate it. Wear a mask if it saves some old people, or don't and help Social Security.
Nothing is killing "a fuck ton more than official numbers". Fucks sake.
Cuomo et all sent infected people into nursing homes and killed tons of other people.
I'm not wearing a mask, so fuck off with that.
I already linked the excess mortality data, which includes NYC specific information.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
There were weeks in April where 4-5x the usual number of people were dying than normal.
I'm fine with you making a choice, as long as you understand what that choice is. Just don't make a choice based on ignorance and false bravado.