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How often would you say you dismiss ideas entirely based on who you hear them from vs. the content of the idea itself?
posted 23 hours ago by SmiggieBalls 23 hours ago by SmiggieBalls +24 / -0

Just curious. I don't doubt we all do it to some degree, but I wonder where people draw the line, if at all.

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– fauxgnaws 5 points 19 hours ago +5 / -0

In court it's supposed to be the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

All of that is needed, and nobody can consistently provide that. It's up to you to construct that for yourself.

Example: Ivermectin.

Ivermectin is "horse medicine". That's true, but it's also human medicine.

Study proving it worked in vitro used a lethal dose. That's true, but the study didn't attempt to find a minimum effective dose.

'Gold Standard' UK trial said it wasn't effective. That's what they concluded, but their reason was that while the data did in fact show it worked, they wouldn't say it was "effective" when Pfizer's version was available and better (after waiting 4 years to publish).

In each of these the Media didn't lie, they just didn't report the whole truth. They convinced lots of people of the complete opposite of reality just by using selective facts, by playing on their assumptions. Some of these people even looked up the facts, "GPT did the in-vitro study use a lethal dose yes or no? Yes." and became even more convinced of their upside down world, because that reporting was actually true.

So if you dismiss what they're saying you're probably dismissing actual true facts (except from liars and ignoramuses). The most important thing is to always ask what are they not telling me? This is also why you should ask AI to disprove what you believe, not whether something is or why it is true, so it focuses on any parts you don't know about.

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– ernsithe 4 points 18 hours ago +4 / -0

That's a good example. How quickly I dismiss ideas from a person or article is proportional to how far they get without trying to lie to me. For example, the old favorite of including suicides as "gun violence." I don't care which side you're arguing for or who you are. I'm not reading/watching anything beyond that point. Same with things like "horse medicine" or trying to pivot between "immigrant" and "illegal immigrant" as if the reader can't tell what you're doing.

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