First people aren't going to agree with me on my assessment of Jews. That's fine. You hate them, I don't. That has nothing to do with the assessment of Nazis. If Nazis targeted only people who were "too asian" they as an ideology would not change from my perspective.

There's this idea that the nazis were good because they were targeting Jews and Jews = degeneracy and therefore the cause of the nazis were good and anti-degeneracy.

Things pointed to are that a lot of the books being burned were degenerate and many of those books were written by Jews. Yes that's a historical fact.

This doesn't make a prove racial characteristic, only it proves that Jews typically are where power is, but tons of the Jews in the concentration camps were not powerful. And a lot of the degeneracy pushers such as in Weimar were not Jewish either, but were German. The point is where power, and decadence is, degeneracy follows. Few would disagree with that.

Here's a big problem with the trying to wonder if the nazis were actually good that the young right in the post-truth age wrestle with.

First of all, nazis, socialists, russians, communists, these are all European political systems. We, in America had a completely different overton window and thank goodness for that. While Europe was trying to figure out what flavor of socialism to implement, America was enjoying a level of freedom, including in speech, and especially in religion that essentially no European country could fathom. So to try to tie nazism to Americanism and borrow it is foolish. We already were operating on a superior level than all those brands of socialism.

If you want to know what nazi Germany would look like in the modern day or any day, just look at Germany from the fall of Nazi germany to today.

Germans have not changed one bit in authoritarianism. Did they drop nazism in favor of freedom after the fall of the Nazi regime? Nope, they hopped immediately into the GDR the German Democratic Republic that lasted until the 90s. The GDR hardly differed at all from Nazi Germany in terms of a government being who you feared rather than a government fearing its people. In fact, it was so close in behavior that I was confused when I was shown a film portraying the GDR in school growing up, having to be explained that this was not WW2. Everyone telling the Stasi about neighbors and teachers and everything else, I could see no difference from the Gestapo as the Gestapo were alwas portrayed.

Then you'd think, after that falls, Germany would FINALLY be ready for freedom, right?

Well rank the free-est nations in Europe and tell me where you put Germany. Germany, if you post memes or criticize Islam, the police get sent to your door just like in the UK.

If you want to know what Germany would be like if they continued on with Nazism, well I've got good news for you; you already know what it looks like. The only thing that got dropped from Germany's government was concentration camps. In all other ways Germany looks the same as Nazi Germany ever since.

But here's the other real issue I have with "maybe the Nazi's were the good guys"; and it has to do with the post truth thing.

If it were to come about, that we made being a woke leftist utterly unpalpable. That, rightfully so, they look at the transgender movement and abortion promotion as the abomination it is, and those people get expelled from the society, in 100 years, you'd have other post truth people trying to re-evaluate the woke people, sitting from a place not like the place where we sit, where we know EXACTLY how awful they are and playing armchair historian and philosopher and they too will go "well maybe the woke people weren't that bad" and if we could time travel into the future we'd slap them across the face and go, moron, yes, yes they were, you're just going to have to take our word for it.

Just because communists are as bad as the nazis doesn't make the nazis good. It just makes European politics an example of why Europe is a total craphole. It's why in America, the 1980s was seen as a time of optimizim and patriotism, yet ask any Eastern bloc nation what the 1980s was like for them and they'll explain that it was a time of alcoholism and despair.

America is not Europe and nazism is just another example of the numerous examples of the hopelessness that Europe has always been further down the drain than America, and that's because America was a fresh start from Europe. A blank slate. A chance to not have to share in Europe's rot.

To want Nazism over what America had in the 1930s-1950s is to say "I wish America was set back 100 years and was a shared partaker in Europe's desperately bleak systems"

To look at modern day America and conclude it's a piece of crap is absolutely rational. It's also absolutely rational to want it to be different. No sane man wants America to be like it is today. The answer isn't wishing the Nazis won. It's wishing that the Marxism that was still being promoted from places like Soviet countries weren't allowed to take root and fester in America.

1940s/1950s America was and will always be 100 times better than modern America and 100 times better than Nazi Germany as well as every totalitarian version of Germany we've seen to this day. Why would we look to a tricycle as the model (Socialism via Nazi Germany) when we have a Porsche as the model (1940s/1950s America and earlier).