This is one of those topics that I find interesting because there's no predictable next step, unlike the weekly cycle of Israel bombing Lebanon or the Trump admin covering up Epstein files.
I think the war must end. It's far too costly to last forever. The US has severely depleted its ammunition reserves, and it seems clear that they're hurting more than Iran at this point. We don't have a lot of information as to how badly the regime is hurting financially with the blockade of their oil, but judging from the skirmishes between the two parties, Trump keeps bluffing and Iran keeps calling it. Ultimately, the Iranians simply have to survive to maintain the upper hand in the conflict. Their speedboat fleets and drone swarms are enough to retain their position.
The Iranians are doing a little better than surviving, though. They keep taking out US radar installations in the ME, which are extremely costly, not easily replaced, and create significant strategic vulnerabilities for any further US campaigns.
The problem on Trump's side is that this is as close to a must-win scenario as he can get, for a couple of obvious reasons. One of them is that the Strait of Hormuz has become a household name, and any further Iranian blockades or tariffs will essentially be total repudiations of his foreign policy success, as well as US military reputation. The embarrassment would be comparable to Reagan pulling back the Marines after the 1984 barracks bombing in Lebanon - an admission that the US is too weak to dictate Middle Eastern politics.
The other problem is that Israel has puppet strings on Trump and, to this point, have made him dance any number they want. But those puppet strings may be fraying at this point, because the battlefield reality is the ultimate power in the world, not Israeli propaganda.
So will Trump actually concede to Iran and try to sell the resulting disaster to the American public? I think this is the most likely option, although I am having trouble seeing how he'll do it. Any finalized deal will include retention of nuclear material and at least partial control of the strait, and the Iranians won't keep quiet about it to help Trump save face. On the contrary, they will rub it in his face constantly. The idea of Trump letting this happen to him is crazy, but "bluster then quietly withdraw with a face-saving deal" was his exact MO with the Houthi bombing campaign last year.
The other option is that Trump goes scorched earth and annihilates Iranian power, water, and oil. Iran would then retaliate in its dying breaths with annihilation of oil refineries and desalinization plants in Israel and the Gulf states, giving us $10 gas and tens of millions of refugees, among many unpredictable consequences. I would've thought this would be inevitable given the iron grip Netanyahu has on Trump, but now I'm not so sure.
Either way, it seems the US-Israel axis is on the way to a big fat L.
lol doubling down on the copium.
"Iranians are too stoopid to use Chinese radar"
Apparently, the very smart CIA viagra-supplied Afghans of yours were too stupid to use American Wunderwaffen.
You're doubling down on "no casualties" and "flying over their country at will"? Dude, you know literally nothing.
You're just stringing words together now.
Counting some mechanical failures and accidents is like saying people died of covid instead of with covid - it wasn't Iran that did it. You're up in arms whether it was 0 or 5 that died? That's nuts.
We rescued a guy inside their territory and took no losses except from mechanical failure.
You guys have completely lost the plot here.
It's called writing. Seems like you struggle as much with that as you do with reading.
Ah, these are the new euphemisms for when a drone blows up your soldiers? Or when your helicopters become smoking wrecks?
No, dude, it's nuts that you would claim that NO ONE got killed when it's actually 13 (not 5 either). 13 is a different number than 0, as much as your innumeracy matches your illiteracy and your bloodthirst.
And it's only 13 because you fled the entire middle east with your vestigial tails between your legs.
You participated? You managed to fit your fat ass through the helicopter door? Astounding. Although it would explain all those 'mechanical failures'.
You will believe literally anything. You may as well claim that you took no human losses except for the 13 (a.k.a. 0) who failed due to biological failure... from Iranian shrapnel in their organs.
There is no 'you guys'.
Oh god you're actually doing it.
In a war the difference between 6 total dead from the enemy and 0 is zero.
What a clown.