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I'm completely on the side of the guy offscreen the so called "bully" (www.youtube.com)
posted 49 days ago by StaticNoise2 49 days ago by StaticNoise2 +21 / -0
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– StaticNoise2 [S] 18 points 49 days ago +18 / -0

Whenever I see videos talking in public places into their phone for TikTok, youtube, whatever, I can't imagine how awkward it is. I can't fathom doing that. I'm shocked that I don't see more of these types of interactions. It's one of the cringiest things to do the "content creator" schtick out in the real world, out in public. I couldn't even do it in the privacy of my own home, because I have this pesky thing called self respect. To see people openly going "hey guys, here at -insert restraurant- and I'm about to try their world famous -insert thing-, be sure to let me know what you guys think in the comments" I want to die of second hand embarrassment.

This whole video I'm watching it going "yes, finally someone calls it out for societally unbecoming behavior that it is". The wife or girlfriend of the man offscreen had a great line. The Asian guy with the youtube food channel is saying "If I was talking on my phone with a phone call would it be any different". The wife or girlfriend says "it would be equally annoying". Yeah exactly. When people are on their phones in public places, people are annoyed, it's just slightly more socially acceptable because sometimes phone calls are needed and you don't know the context or the time constraints. A person recording a TikTok in a restaurant we know exactly the context of why they're doing it. So I disagree with the woman. It would be ALMOST as annoying as filming a TikTok food review, but still less so because there's legitimate reasons to be on the phone at a restaurant. The point is, we've failed as a society when interactions like this are A) exceedingly rare

B) uploaded by the creator knowing that people will take HIS side on this issue

and C) people in the comments do in fact take his side.

I'd love to give the guy who's saying "why do you have to do your stupid content creator stuff and not just be a normal person, or if you HAVE to do it, just bring the food into your car or something" a fist bump and tell him right on.

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– TrashWolf 15 points 48 days ago +15 / -0

The lack of self awareness when he's like ya but if I was talking on the phone right next to you it's the same thing right? Yes, precisely, that would be excruciatingly annoying.
There also is the unfortunate portnoy effect in play nowadays too, which is that these reviewers get special privileges and essentially hold food places hostage, because although these streamers and YouTubers pose themselves as a "more honest, yelp alternative" they come with the same para social weirdo crowd that streamers draw. The restaurant owners aren't just left with one melodramatic bad review, they become victims of targeted harassment campaigns or even subject to being psychoanalyzed, torn down, and turned into a meme rather than a business. These people signed up to sell food, not be reality tv stars. Im sure this food place will receive a lot of negative attention based on the fact they didn't rush in to save my favorite streamer when he was in dire need, regardless if that is the creator's intention.
Kitchen nightmares had many similar stories, although that one is a little deeper since the show often would inject revenue into their streams only to take it away when the cameras stop rolling.

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– Belenus 8 points 48 days ago +8 / -0

While recording in a public space is one issue to consider, does someone doing this not need the permission of all the randoms also present in the restaurant?

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– StaticNoise2 [S] 6 points 48 days ago +6 / -0

I'm not sure how it works legally. It depends on if it's public or private. If you're recording people at a park, legally you're allowed to. Anywhere that's public people are allowed to record you. The restaurant themselves let him record, so whether that makes it fall under public and legal or still a private place and illegal, I don't think it really matters. If it's legal, which it very well may be, it's an unspoken societal rule not to make recordings in places like that.

Exceptions are like, there was this documentary film with Ernest Borgnine in the 90s where all he did was travel to different small towns across the US, see what was in there, and would get something to eat at places. It was just, let's have a road trip, but also it's a celebrity so it's a bonus. The reason that's acceptable, the film crew coming into a small restaurant and Ernest Borgnine chatting up locals is A) if people ask not to be in it, typically, unlike these Tiktoker types, the editors will probably respect their wish and cut them out, not shame them and "put them on blast" for asking to not be a part of it.

B) Ernest Borgnine was the draw and he interacted with the public. The public was being used the way the public should be used for...to interact with it. It would be very different if people were eating, Ernest Borgnine shows up by himself with a handheld camera and starts monologing next to people eating. Sure some people would be star struck, even in the 90s, but a lot of people would think "that's really rude and annoying, and presumptious...even if he is a celebrity, don't just come into a restaurant and "talk to yourself". In the documentary, and the behind the scenes footage on youtube of all the stuff you don't see in the actual film, where he's just shooting the breeze with random people, he's just being a friendly guy; engaging with people. The food isn't the focus. It's "lets follow this loved celebrity to places all over America and get the local flavor of places".

In that case, the unspoken rule of "don't film randomly in businesses when people are having an expectation of not being filmed or have an obnoxious person talking near them" is given an exception because anytime a celebrity goes to a small town, especially back in the 90s when having been in movies actually meant something, it was a cool thing, like seeing a rare endangered owl fly overhead or something. The rules get put aside temporarily.

"Content creators" aren't charismatic, don't have gravitas, they aren't known for anything other than churning out content, thus them recording in places breaks the unspoken rule regardless of whether it's legal or not.

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– LauriThorne 3 points 48 days ago +3 / -0

In every single party consent states, it is perfectly legal because you don't have a "reasonable expectation of privacy" in public.

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